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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    False. Different states have different rules on whether and under what circumstances their delegates may change their votes. But there is no absolute rule that all delegates are pledged delegates if the convention is not brokered.
    Rule 40 of the Republican Party. Look it up. It clearly states that if a single nominee has shown enough plurality in the primary voting process to prevent a brokered convention, the delegate votes of each state remain as they were called during the elections. If no single nominee has shown this, then the unbounded delegates are free to change their vote before and when the state delegates convene before they make the final decision which nominee and party planks they support.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    Your delusional thinking persists. I have told you, what, a dozen times now that I will be voting for the Libertarian candidate, not Ron Paul. But that fact does not jibe with the stereotype cartoon constantly playing in your head, so Ron Paul is still 'my boy' in your bizarre 'reality'.
    You are the only one supporting what amounts to Ron Paul supporters attempting to bitch and moan their way into usurping the nomination because they are part of a cult of personality you'd expect to find in Communist dictatorships instead of a democratic republic. And this is while Obama-mania still isn't dead yet. Pardon LD for calling a spade a spade in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodyTalon View Post
    Rule 40 of the Republican Party. Look it up. It clearly states that if a single nominee has shown enough plurality in the primary voting process to prevent a brokered convention, the delegate votes of each state remain as they were called during the elections. If no single nominee has shown this, then the unbounded delegates are free to change their vote before and when the state delegates convene before they make the final decision which nominee and party planks they support.
    What RNC Rule 40(b) says is:
    Each candidate for nomination for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States shall demonstrate the support of a plurality of the delegates from each of five (5) or more states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of that candidate for nomination.
    What you said is:
    Delegates are only allowed to change their vote if the convention is brokered....
    Your statement remains incorrect, and does not in any way say the same thing as Rule 40(b). What this does mean is that Paul cannot get on the ballot at the convention, something no one has contested.
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    You are the only one supporting what amounts to Ron Paul supporters attempting to bitch and moan their way into usurping the nomination because they are part of a cult of personality you'd expect to find in Communist dictatorships instead of a democratic republic. And this is while Obama-mania still isn't dead yet. Pardon LD for calling a spade a spade in this case.
    This is utterly false. I post articles about Paul delegates because I find the situation interesting and newsworthy. The Repub leadership are acting a bit like thugs when it comes to nominees that they do not support. This in no way makes me 'a Ron Paul supporter', nor does it make Ron Paul 'my boy'. That is like saying if you post a bunch of articles about Russia you must be a Putin supporter. That is not logic. It is pure BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    What RNC Rule 40(b) says is:What you said is:Your statement remains incorrect, and does not in any way say the same thing as Rule 40(b). What this does mean is that Paul cannot get on the ballot at the convention, something no one has contested.
    Do you even know what the term "brokered convention" means? It means there is more than one candidate to be nominated, which then give unbound delegates the right to change the vote of their district when the state delegates convene. A candidate having plurality = A candidate having the clear majority = A candidate is the sole nominee = no brokered convention. Again, the Ron Paul supporters are attempting to bitch and moan their way out of primary campaign process because their lord and savior lost to a businessman who looks vaguely like Gul Dukat from Star Trek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodyTalon View Post
    Do you even know what the term "brokered convention" means?
    Yes. Do you?
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    It means there is more than one candidate to be nominated, which then give unbound delegates the right to change the vote of their district when the state delegates convene.[ A candidate having plurality = A candidate having the clear majority = A candidate is the sole nominee = no brokered convention.
    I see you do not understand the convention process at all. The convention will not be brokered, however Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum will be on the ballot, having qualified. Paul only won a plurality of delegates in two states, but he could conceivably get enough delegates in three other states to switch over, in which case he would be on the ballot as well. Unlikely, but possible. There will probably be only a single vote, making the presumptive nominee, Mitt Romney, the officially nominated candidate.
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    Again, the Ron Paul supporters are attempting to bitch and moan their way out of primary campaign process because their lord and savior lost to a businessman who looks vaguely like Gul Dukat from Star Trek.
    No doubt there is a lot of that going on. But they also have some quite legitimate grievances about how they have been treated by the Repub leadership. In some cases, the Repub Party state leadership broke their own rules in their attempts to suppress Paul's delegates.

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    Arrow Will Ron Paul delegates make Romney flip flop again?

    http://communities.washingtontimes.c...ney-flip-flop/

    However, one thing everyone acknowledges is that no delegate to the RNC is bound to any candidate’s position on the issues. That means Paul’s 500 delegates can vote any way they want regarding the Republican Party platform.

    That might not sound exciting, but consider the implications. The nominee is expected to adopt the platform as his own, or at least not take a position that directly contradicts it. Romney’s positions are diametrically opposed to Paul’s on a range of issues. What if the Ron Paul delegates get one or more of Paul’s positions into the platform?
    That is very interesting. I did not realize that the delegates vote on every item of the Repub Party platform at the convention.

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    Again Paul is Passe, yesterdays lunatic. He will not be the Nominee, he will not be the president, he will not have leverage in the convention. And no amount of holding breath till blue and stamping feet amoing the Borg will change that.

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    You got to be ****ting me. LOL!

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    He would get my vote in a heartbeat if there was even a remote chance he would win.

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    Yup, me too. Yeah yeah, crazypants and everything.

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    I didn't think he was still running. Funny stuff.

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    The Repub convention is going to be very interesting.

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    Ron Paul fails to win enough delegates to earn official invitation to Republican convention

    http://www.capitolcolumn.com/news/ro...an-convention/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ought six View Post
    Ron Paul fails
    ............qft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    Ron Paul fails to win enough delegates to earn official invitation to Republican convention
    Sorry, Ron Paul fans.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six
    The Repub convention is going to be very interesting.
    Not really.

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