Hmm got this link via a PM; like I said I'm not saying its the truth but it holds interest given the very 'hot' geopolitical situation in that region right now:
http://enver-guseynov.suite101.com/p...n-iran-a383886
I think that this article makes some valid points. Azeris have rarely been a particularly nationalistic people, and likewise haven't shown any aversion to using other languages. Azeri support for the continuation of the USSR in 1989/1990, and the continued prevelance of Russian in the country is a case in point. It's hard to imagine that most of them will want to seperate from Iran; even if their intelligencia is in favour.
All that article is doing is citing some Iranian sources...Not really "valid".
Please take a look at some photos I posted from Tabriz. It would not be an exaggeration to claim that whole stadium are like that during matches. It will answer your question.
Really? Azerbaijan was the first former Soviet republic to kick out Russian troops, first protests against Soviet Troops after Baltics. How did Azerbaijan support the continuation of USSR?
Last edited by AttilaA; 05-20-2012 at 02:27 PM.
The most amazing thing about this thread is that a non-Iranian person is trying to tell us (the Iranian-Azeris) that we want to separate ourselves from Iran. Well I don't and I don't know many who want with majority of my family living in Tabriz and Ardebil. I don't understand why a foreigner is trying so hard!
Somehow all Persians has Turkic roots when the subject comes to situation of Azeri Turks in Iran.
Last edited by AttilaA; 05-20-2012 at 11:46 PM.
now you are calling me a liar.... how classy of you, then again I wasn't expecting more from someone with Pan-Turk views.Originally Posted by AttilaA
I thought the most amazing part was a Russian trying to transplant Russia's paranoid world outlook onto everyone else and imploy this is some evil US plot?
there are more than 23 million Azeris living in Iran
Thank god you are not in Baku ...kicked out Russian troops really,nice attitude towards Russians ( CCCP is not only about Russia )? ,not only OMON troop help the Azeri troops but also the same leaders paid Russian Ukrainian troops,brought Afgan Mujaheddins and chechen Terrorist.
Go ask the people that live there how they feel about CCCP would they like it back ?
Iranians and Armenians care.
For Iranians its obvious.....Turks want to take over their land in the North and connect Turkey through Nakichevan to Azerbaijan.
For Armenians not so obvious.....by taking over Northern Iran Turks now can now cut off Armenia from Iran and leave them surrounded in three fronts. Take a guess what will happen after that.
Luckily so far all that Pan Turkists with their Graywolfs dirtbags have achieved is soccer hooligans, thugs who highjack demonstrations to restore Lake Urmie into anti-Iranian chants, and impressionable kids who are unemployed and don't see a future for themselves.
Maybe a little general information will help some of the readers who are not aware what this is about.
Pan-Turkism ("P-T") is a political movement started more than 100 years ago aiming to unite the various 'Turkic peoples' into a modern political super-state. "Turkic" is more commonly a linguistic term, not an ethnic or "racial" one, though the proponents of P-T try to blur that distinction for political gain and have devised many dubious and inconsistent narratives regarding their ethnic origins (and the origins of other groups). P-T often relies on the use of propaganda and states as its goal: 'The aim of all Turks is to unite with the Turkic borders.' P-T is a form of Turkish imperial ambition. The "Young Turks" who carried pan-Turkist ideologies as their guiding principle and are accused of the Armenian Genocide, Greek genocide and Assyrian Genocide. [fn 1.] [fn 2.] (The Young Turks are also accused of being members of other ethno-religious groups.) P-T still exists today, with cells in Turkey, Azerbaijan, Europe, the USA, and Iran. P-T often destroys or assumes dominion over the culture, language, and historical record of outside ethnic and linguistic groups it attempts to dominate. Russia, China, Armenia and Iran, generally perceive Panturkism as a new form of Turkish imperial ambition and pretext for ethnic cleansing, and a tool for creating instability in regions where it is introduced. Turkey has become a major business partner to many Central Asian Turkic states, and has attempted to spread the P-T ideology there.
Footnotes.
[fn 1.] See Jacob M. Landau. Pan-Turkism: From Irredentism to Cooperation. India University Press, 1995. 2nd Edition. p. 45: "Pan-Turkism's historic chance arrived shortly before and during First World War, when it was adopted a guiding principle of state policy by an influental group among the Young Turks"
[fn 2.] See Robert F. Melson, "The Armenian Genocide" in Kevin Reilly (Editor), Stephen Kaufman (Editor), Angela Bodino (Editor) "Racism: A Global Reader (Sources and Studies in World History)", M.E. Sharpe (January 2003). pg 278:
I do recall that there was a referendum about the continuation of the USSR in which Azeris overwhelmingly voted for it. Very soon after there was a bunch of events and disasters that completely turned public opinion around (Ukraine's opinion turned 180 degrees too), and the USSR was pretty much in free-fall by that time anyway.
OMON and Soviet forces were pretty much doing most of the fighting on Azerbaijans side against Armenian irregulars; and Russian and Ukrainian officers, pilots and mercenaries were widely hired.
I don't know about atttitudes towards Russians per se, I'm talking about the attitude towards the Russian language; there were never any problems with it unlike the Baltics, Ukraine, some other republics, etc...
23 milion is the amount who can speak Azeri, i am one of them. There are 12-15 milion ethnic Azeris inside Iran, who are proud to be a Iranian
But Pan-Turk ideology states that you cannot be a proud Iranian, since you are a Turkic
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