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    Default Russia should join NATO.

    Russia should be awarded with NATO membership.

    Russia should be on the agenda for NATO summit in Chicago this weekend. In spite of recent tensions, the historically fractured relationship between Russia and NATO is the most ripe for transformation. Obstacles like missile defense and Eastern Europe can be resolved.
    Since 1997, when NATO and Russia laid the foundation for future cooperation and security, the connection has been nothing but fragile. Of course, the first rupture came when NATO offered membership to Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia – all countries sharing borders with Russia – as well as the Czech Republic and Slovakia.

    At a time of great vulnerability, Russia felt the affront deeply; it had peacefully backed down from the superpower struggle, only to have its erstwhile enemy incorporate former Soviet states into the US-dominated alliance. Hardliners in Russia were ready to lash out with a military response, but President Boris Yeltsin and others committed to transforming the country prevailed, instead focusing inward on domestic problems.
    And the problems were many. In the 1990s, observers worried that Russia itself would be fragmented by ethnic strife and civil war. They aired concerns that the transition from a command to a market economy would leave many without employment and in dire poverty, and that the humiliation of a defeated Russia would give rise to hyper-nationalist leaders who might be even worse than communist bureaucrats. And they feared that some 40,000 nuclear weapons from poorly guarded and unsecured sites would leak out across the world
    They see the plans as threatening, even though the US approach to missile defense – placing around 500 sea- and land-based interceptors throughout Europe over the upcoming years – is still not able to distinguish nuclear warheads from decoys or other debris. According to a September 2011 Defense Science Board report, as well as a recent US National Academy report, this failure of the European system renders the US defense so deeply flawed as to be useless.
    Discussions in March between the US and Russian missile defense experts focused on a more limited but possibly more effective missile defense system, the Forward Active Defense, proposed by Ted Postol, a missile expert at MIT. Whatever the outcome of developing this particular system, US-Russian technical collaboration is precisely the kind of cooperation that will help overcome the missile defense obstacle to Russian-NATO integration.
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    and such on three pages: http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/...ATO-membership



    Such statement coming from CSM? I must've woken up in parallel reality.

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    Why not? Russia could have veto power and make NATO as useless as the UN.

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    If Russia joins NATO, it will become a bloated organization with too many disparate geo-political goals to be a credible defense alliance. Think UN.

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    ^^^ Yes and No.


    The original purpose of NATO is passe'. So why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    ^^^ Yes and No.


    The original purpose of NATO is passe'. So why not?
    If it will build a better relationship with the planet, why not. I doubt Russia is planning any massive attacks on anyone anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shermbodius View Post
    If it will build a better relationship with the planet, why not. I doubt Russia is planning any massive attacks on anyone anytime soon.
    Thanks, sums up my thoughts too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    The original purpose of NATO is passe'. So why not?
    Because modern NATO mainly preoccupies itself with fighting/pressuring Russian client-states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyslapper View Post
    Because modern NATO mainly preoccupies itself with fighting/pressuring Russian client-states.
    those will quickly transform into NATO client-states. and China will shoot itself.

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    NATO is so popular and loved in Russia, I just can't wait for it to happen.

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    The Chief of the Russian General Staff is right now saying Russia should pre emptively attack NATO and the US over Missile defence and some Idiot thinks they want to be in NATO?
    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may...fense-20120504

    Mind Boggling...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    The Chief of the Russian General Staff is right now saying Russia should pre emptively attack NATO and the US over Missile defence and some Idiot thinks they want to be in NATO?
    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may...fense-20120504

    Mind Boggling...
    I think he is talking out of his ass. Russia Strong whatever...

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    This belongs to "offtopic and humour"...

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    you should read Tom Clancy novel

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    When aliens would attack the Earth it will happen. Before that the US definitely don't need Russia in this block, so it wouldn't.

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    Russia in NATO makes sense.
    It takes the pressure off many things. (Missile defense, Artic Sea claims, logistic support in Afghanistan).
    NATO membership may update the Russian Army standards and equipment. Likewise NATO may benefit from Russian training areas, and assests.

    Questions:
    -If Russia joined NATO, would NATO responsibilities expand towards the Far East towards China?
    -Would the Central Asian republics follow Russia's lead and join NATO as well?
    -What would be the reaction from the periphery states such as Poland, the Baltic Republics, Moldova, Belarus, Georgia, Armenia?

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