LimeWire is Being Sued for Up to $75 Trillion, Judge Thinks It’s “Absurd”

[SkyUS]

In most of the world it isn´t. Even copyrighted media. And your comparision with thievery of car stands on water.

Fine. Let me rephrase it.

Sharing/distributing multimedia content without holding copyrights to it is illegal.

I don't think there's any need in any copyright laws at all, full stop.

what do you mean?

So If I create photograph which is my intellectual property, you have the right and legality to distribute it as you wish?

If you would have invented a time machine, would I have the right to steal it from you, and distribute it to everyone?

Same concept.

Mine was no justification. Even though the truth , it was for showing the absurdity of it all.


And the car analogy? Not biting.

Hey man, I only applied the car analogy to your scenario. You made it seem as if downloading songs that you already bought was legal and the right thing to do. In my car analogy was direct representation of your example.

[SkyUS]

In all fairness,

I can understand your point however.

Take this example,

I bought apps on iTunes for my iPad.

Once they downloaded and installed on my iPad, I have deleted them few months later.

I still own the licence to the said apps despite them on being physically on my device itself. I can re download and re-install them again if I wish to do so.

That isn't illegal.

[Macs.]

I don't think there's any need in any copyright laws at all, full stop.

I don't think you really know what impact that would have.

Extremes are almost always bad. A too strict copyright law is as retarded as no copyright laws at all.

[Dinges]

In all fairness,

I can understand your point however.

Take this example,

I bought apps on iTunes for my iPad.

Once they downloaded and installed on my iPad, I have deleted them few months later.

I still own the licence to the said apps despite them on being physically on my device itself. I can re download and re-install them again if I wish to do so.

That isn't illegal.

Exactly my point!


When I was at 'varsity my car got stolen with some textbooks in it. I was forced to make photocopies of some pages in the library for my personal use. Even though I had the textbook bought and paid for. The librarians had no problem with it and it was generally accepted as normal practice.

Now those were something where somebody actually had intellectual property rights for!


This is a load of puerile BS the record companies ar fighting for...

[Ozzy[NO]]

If you are downloading through torrents, then you know that there can be hundreds of people downloading a part of the song from you.

Each one of these people would be counted as a lost sale/money to the industry.

Multiply the amount of people whom you shared the file with by the sum of money deemed appriopriate for the loss of one sale of that one song and you get damages in the sum of thousnads of dollars.

Which is a totally wrong way of calculating it, one downloaded CD would not equal one sale of said CD if internet-piracy didn't exist.

And about Dinges example; If you own a CD, you don't own the songs, just that CD. This is why I think owning a license for personall use of movies, music, games etc is a rather good idea and is comming more and more now with online solutions instead of a hard copy.

[Silent Reader]

And about Dinges example; If you own a CD, you don't own the songs, just that CD.

What about software then? The companies always stress that you just own a license. So if you loose your DVD you should be able to download the software again as long as the license did not expire

[Corrupt]

Hey man, I only applied the car analogy to your scenario. You made it seem as if downloading songs that you already bought was legal and the right thing to do. In my car analogy was direct representation of your example.

So I can burn a cd to my computer fine, but I can't download the same songs to the same computer because I lost the cd?

[SkyUS]

So I can burn a cd to my computer fine, but I can't download the same songs to the same computer because I lost the cd?

It's question of the licence.

And we both know that the issue here is about distribution of copyrighted material rather than downloading itself.

Ozzy[No]

And about Dinges example; If you own a CD, you don't own the songs, just that CD. This is why I think owning a license for personall use of movies, music, games etc is a rather good idea and is comming more and more now with online solutions instead of a hard copy.

I agree.

[my name again]

Quick question. Is it legal to build a copy of a car you own all by yourself? I mean crafting all the parts by yourself and then using said copied car for personal purposes? Since we already started with the car analogys.

[Dinges]

Quick question. Is it legal to build a copy of a car you own all by yourself? I mean crafting all the parts by yourself and then using said copied car for personal purposes? Since we already started with the car analogys.

Did you design it?

[Ozzy[NO]]

What about software then? The companies always stress that you just own a license. So if you loose your DVD you should be able to download the software again as long as the license did not expire

When I said CD, I ment a CD with music, where in most cases you just own that CD, not a license to use their music on other platforms.

[Hypno85]

Part of game piracy on the PC has a lot to do with lack of demo's. In the day demo's came out I downloaded/got the CD played it - If it was crap I didn't buy it, If it was good I brought it.....Now a game comes out there's no demo/open beta what do people do....download the full version which is a full loss right?

With a demo for example CODMW2 no demo on the PC and to note "a demo should be out before the game goes on sale" or your just tempting people with a download of a demo or full game. I played the game thought this is b*lls**t not buying this...now if this was brought on the PC I'm stuck with it no way to get rid of it. If it were a demo it would of been holy hell this bad un-install forget about no waste off cash.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

Maybe you should have though about that BEFORE YOU POSTED IT ON THE FVCKING INTERNET.

Maybe........But the mature approach would be not assume a person is a deadbeat loser...........You are the only one who uses it time and time and time a again.............wonder why ****face?

[C.Puffs]

Maybe........But the mature approach would be not assume a person is a deadbeat loser...........You are the only one who uses it time and time and time a again.............wonder why ****face?

"time and time and time again"? Nah, just with you.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

Obviously your reading comprehension fails