With this kind of logic? Yes, absolutely. Clearly by singing it yourself, the artist missed out on you buying a ticket for one of their concerts.Originally Posted by deagle
Yep, I should have been arrested as a teen for making cassette tapes for my friends from my collection of vinyl albums that I bought from working while in school. Fvck the music industry. They have been fvcking over artist and consumers for decades.
For everybody who is against copyright law.
What should we have in place in place?
Should we all simply download/copy everything and anything we want?
A better system which allows refunds for ****ty music, movie and software. Also allows the resale of games music and movie from one account holder to another legally.
Shut up already. I should rip your sh1t off.
P.S. I bet you can't wait to sue somebody so you can suck off their teat instead of the government one.
Well come on. You all spruik that copyright is a joke. Yet not one of you can come up with a viable alternative that makes both parties happy.
I really disagree with you on everything but this.
All you chumps talk about how bad artists are, how bad the music industry is, blah blah blah
Yet, you all consume it, enjoy it, and use it to enrich your life. I hope all you thieves get hit by a truck carrying CD's to my local shop...where I pay real money to add them to my physical collection of music.
I don't think there can be compromise. One side wants the money and the other wants it free.
I'd be happy enough to pay for copyrighted products downloaded over the interwebs so long as:
1: It's geographically neutral. No paying twice as much as the US price because of "distribution costs"...
2: It's easy to do. Try finding a way to (for example) legally download the latest episode of Game of Thrones. Short answer, you can't. Easiest solution then - pirate it. So something that I'd be prepared to pay money for to be able to view it before Sky deigns to show it locally instead I find much (much) easier to download it.
3: It's transferable. If I download a game on (again for example) Steam, I want to be able to loan it to a mate, or sell it later. Same for movies or music. I am not paying you money to lease/rent/borrow your IP. I am paying for ownership to do with as I please.
Repeated studies have shown that most people are prepared to pay a reasonable sum for copyrighted material provided that it is a simple exercise. The success of iTunes pretty much demonstrates this.
It is a joke, but WE as the damn CONSUMER shouldn't have to sit here and get fvcked from all angles because the lack of people trying to brew up a compromise that majority can be happy with.
Personally in my opinion, most people who pirated are just some cheap ass SOB who think they're entitled to get whatever they want because it's out there on the internet and available.
Most of the people who do it because of some DMR or whatever security measure are really in the minority.
And please spare me these... but Pirating isn't STEALING!!! cuz it's a copy broooo.... I'm pretty sure if I were to copy your Social Security Number off the internet, you would consider that as a theft instead of another copies.
Thing is piracy is a service issue, look at the steam it is one of if not the most effective manner of counter acting online piracy. I support the right to pirate stuff, because if you can't deliver a good service and product why should be give you money.
What kind of damage can you do with knowing someone's social? A lot.
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What kind of damage can you do with pirating? None.
1. I agree here. I do think it's absurd that companies can charge a premium in other regions. Australia gets ripped off big time about it and there is shortly going to be a parliamentary inquiry over it. BUT the seller of goods has every right to set the prices they choose. If a buyer does not like the prices they can either buy an alternative product or simply not buy. It's the way the free market works. But I do agree with the principle that consumers in certain regions get ripped off.
BUT also bare in mind Australia/New Zealand are relatively small markets. Earning another 10 million dollars over a month on a movie for example is going to mean very little to a company who can pull in double that on a single weekend movie premier.
2. Yeah sure pirating is easy to do. But again just because a distributor chooses not to make something available in a certain region or on the internet does not give you the right to expect it for free.
3. I agree on this.
I don't disagree that the seller has the right to set the price by market. But we are talking about what it takes to stop piracy. And geographical neutrality is certainly one important point. (It was the same in the UK when I lived there where prices in $US for a lot of goods were translated into the same number of pounds).
Point two; same story. Agree they're entitled to it, but if they want to stop piracy, this is the way to go about it.
Point three; hey we agree!!!
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