Reply With QuoteThis is just.....!
It makes one sick to the stomach.
I honest to god can not believe the sheer stupidity and indolence ....!
Greeks embrace some new myths about life with the euro
http://www.*******.com/article/2012/...2F+Top+News%29
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This is just.....!
It makes one sick to the stomach.
I honest to god can not believe the sheer stupidity and indolence ....!
Still in denial mode. Like an addict who thinks that he has full control over the drugs.
Sad state of affairs.
In this article are two different views from the Greek people, but you take into account only those that match with your beliefs.
Because it is convenient to write your usual comments.
For me this is the most important from this article and this has to be more clear to the Greek citizens:
Observers of the Greek political scene say there are serious risks if voters carry such myths to the polls.
"It's a grand illusion," said Theodore Couloumbis of the ELIAMEP think tank. "Parties must pose the basic question - in or out of the euro? It will be tragic if we are thrown off the European bus because our politicians can't send the right message."
And yes, Eurozone can be shortened..
But tell me you people, who would you vote if you were in our positions? The political parties that brought our country in catastrophe and now (after 30 years) they realized that it cannot go on anymore? Will you ever sail again with a ship that hit the rocks so many times in the past thanks to her captain's skills?
The Greeks want justice but unfortunately this is the wrong moment. Do not blame the waiter, the woman with the sewing machine, the owner of the store who say all these, they are people who lost their jobs, they are people that cannot plan how to live the next days.. These people pay, the others have not felt anything yet..
This link works better: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...c=Worldupdates
Last edited by D-Mitch; 05-23-2012 at 04:55 AM.
Greece as yet plays one of the most dangerous games of chicken with the world
Michael Portillo did a documentary broadcast about 3 weeks ago how Greeks are in complete denial. From lawyers, economists to electricians.
There are other options, not just demagogues...Originally Posted by D-Mitch
http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w...05/2012_441741
But for some bizarre reason, we Greeks shun moderate pragmatic parties and go for the ones with the best rhetoric. We've developed a rash, impulsive mindset that demagogues can easily exploit time and again.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/17/op...k-outrage.html
In better times we can use it to our advantage by labeling it as "exuberance" or "zest for life" that can draw in tourists who want to "live a day the Greek way" (the subtitle of a local Greek Festival). Unfortunately, in bad times, it sends us to lows not balanced by the highs.
It's been our undoing throughout our history.
I don't know what exactly stuck out most for me:
Greece is heading for the exit from the single currency and towards the economic and social catastrophe that would follow.
That's the opinion of Dina Kyriakidou and Karolina Tagaris, and one that is being force-fed to the Greek people (and the other PIIGS). Greece has been in the Euro for roughly 10 years, and half of those in recession. I'm sure they'll survive not using the Euro.
"There's a lot of money in this country, they just need to tax the rich and it would solve so many problems," said seamstress Argiro Maniati, 55.
Yeah!! Those rich people should pay their share fare. This statement explains why Obama has such overwhelming support in Euroland.
Yes greece, if you want expensive entitlements, such as retirement at 55(50 for women), you need to live much poorer when you are working. This is at the core of the problem with the modern left. Gimme. Gimme. Gimme. Na. Someone else will pay.In what many foreign partners see as the great Greek paradox, opinion polls show over 75 percent of Greeks want to stay in the euro, but two thirds oppose an international bailout, a lifeline which came with harsh salary, pension and job cuts.
It doesn't matter who greece votes for. greece needs a fundamental change in its core entitlement beliefs before this will change.
It always cracks me up when the extreme left supports Obama, who is much further to the right then even the most right wing parties in many areas.
Last edited by carbonrod; 05-23-2012 at 10:05 AM.
x1000
Alcibiades comes in mind
Politics in Greece has become a family business, grandfather-son-grandson, father-daughter, uncle-nephew.
People vote for the same politicians the last 3-4 decades.
Now these politicians want to be voted again to save Greece.
People knew all these decades very well how the system works and they want these parties in power to secure a job in the public sector.
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Bottom line i blame voters more.
So in other words the politicians are the voters themselves
Blaming the politicians for everything suddenly makes sense.
I saw that documentary. I'm not sure how managed to misconstrue the documentary to be about denial, most of the people interviewed were acutely aware of their problems and what brought them there.
If anything it was Portillo who seemed to live in a dream world when he was shocked to find out that there are actually people standing in soup-lines! As if there weren't soup lines in every single country on earth. Or his hilarious statement that Greece should leave the euro so they could export more tomatoes and olives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEbioTWE6Gg
Last edited by joka; 05-25-2012 at 03:13 AM.
I did not misconstrue anything. I think most people realise when they don't have a penny in their bank account. Portillo's documentary was primarily about the solution to the problem.
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