Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 16 to 28 of 28

Thread: Disgruntled Investors file a lawsuit against Facebook and Banks

  1. #16
    Senior Member Climber's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Buenos Aires in body, the beautiful and green Sharon in my heart
    Age
    44
    Posts
    8,038

    Default

    If you invest in FB you deserve to lost money IMO

    And FWIW, I dont believe that buying shares is investing, they should invest in their own jobs.

    Its a ****ing casino.

  2. #17
    Senior Member twinblade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    In front of the telly, watching cricket.
    Posts
    3,813

    Default




    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	funny-facebook-fails-u-mad-zuckerberg.jpg 
Views:	217 
Size:	46.5 KB 
ID:	179888

  3. #18
    Senior Member Kit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    2,783

    Default

    All this Facebook and JP Morgan drama is making me tear my hair out. When you invest in the stock market, you are taking a RISK. When RISK is involved, FAILURE is possible. Since we don't like in a perfect world, FAILURE sometimes happens. We don't need lawyers to protect us from failure. It's absurd.

  4. #19
    Senior Member Climber's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Buenos Aires in body, the beautiful and green Sharon in my heart
    Age
    44
    Posts
    8,038

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Kit View Post
    All this Facebook and JP Morgan drama is making me tear my hair out. When you invest in the stock market, you are taking a RISK. When RISK is involved, FAILURE is possible. Since we don't like in a perfect world, FAILURE sometimes happens. We don't need lawyers to protect us from failure. It's absurd.
    yes, and its a ****ing bet.

  5. #20
    Senior Member tea drinker's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Last place in the Eurovision
    Age
    43
    Posts
    6,793

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Kit View Post
    All this Facebook and JP Morgan drama is making me tear my hair out. When you invest in the stock market, you are taking a RISK. When RISK is involved, FAILURE is possible. Since we don't like in a perfect world, FAILURE sometimes happens. We don't need lawyers to protect us from failure. It's absurd.
    AGree about risk, not about illegal markey manipulation.

  6. #21
    Senior Member OrangeWolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Scuttling between Amsterdam and Marseille
    Posts
    3,154

    Default

    I don't even see adverts on Facebook

  7. #22
    bogan Violet Fashion by Mindy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Weimar
    Age
    34
    Posts
    22,320

    Default

    Pro-tip never ever buy stock at the initial offering...................wait a few weeks.

  8. #23
    Member Hexer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    556

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Violet Fashion by Mindy View Post
    Pro-tip never ever buy stock at the initial offering...................wait a few weeks.
    Not necessarily, if your bank offered you the shares as one of the first customers, which will only be the case if you got a lot of money going with them, then you could have made a LOT of money from facebook.

    Something around a 13% rise in the beginning? Cash that profit and you're done.

    Didn't the equity firm Bono had his money in , make something along the lines of 1,5 billion? I wonder wehther they sold before the value dropped.

  9. #24
    Senior Member danielc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    1,325

    Default

    Human greed and suckers with money go hand-in-hand.

  10. #25
    Senior Member DaveDash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    5,325

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Flagg View Post
    Would I pay $1 billion for Facebook?

    Absolutely!

    Would I pay $100 billion for Facebook?

    No....

    Facebook has a value.....public markets exist for a number of reasons......to put a tangible value on things, as well as a means of raising capital and investing capital.

    Facebook float at $50 billion would have been a smashing success......

    They(underwriters/Facebook/inside shareholders) simply pushed too hard and went too far.

    Facebook has a value.....a very real tangible value....

    I've got a small business that uses Facebook.......we've got a pretty substantial following on Facebook.

    It has certainly helped my business.......in fact I'd say it has been one of our better investments in time/effort/money.

    Could Facebook become another Yahoo? Absolutely.....but I would say you'd have to be a complete moron to NOT leverage the much deeper, broader, richer voluntary customer data being added each day which is owned into perpetuity by Facebook.

    The ability for Facebook to leverage it's growing mass personalized intelligence it's almost boundless.

    Take direct mail marketing.....rubbish that goes in your post box...my understanding is that a HUGE strike rate is considered 2%...that's phenominal success.

    There's no reason why Facebook cannot achieve 3,4,6,8% or better with their broader deeper knowledge of it's customers.

    Your TV and your radio and your magazines and your newspapers know little to nothing about you individually......Facebook, Google, Amazon, and Apple know everything about you....or considerable "slices" of you.

    Facebook's potential is both scary and awesome.........
    Facebook is really iffy when it comes to B2B advertising. B2C though it's great - although a lot more people are using mobiles and tablets and thus no advertising (yet).

    Its real value comes from its database.

  11. #26
    Senior Member Macs.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Germany.
    Posts
    21,873

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Flagg View Post
    The ability for Facebook to leverage it's growing mass personalized intelligence it's almost boundless.

    Take direct mail marketing.....rubbish that goes in your post box...my understanding is that a HUGE strike rate is considered 2%...that's phenominal success.

    There's no reason why Facebook cannot achieve 3,4,6,8% or better with their broader deeper knowledge of it's customers.

    Your TV and your radio and your magazines and your newspapers know little to nothing about you individually......Facebook, Google, Amazon, and Apple know everything about you....or considerable "slices" of you.

    Facebook's potential is both scary and awesome.........
    Facebooks value comes down to one thing and that is its users. As you said, their data are the backbone of their worth. And you don't have to tell anyone who looked into the dynamics of todays internet business that users come and go faster than you can say "MySpace".

    Even 1 billion users today doesn't mean that there are 200 million active users in 5 years.

    And that is the only thing this company has. No outstanding products, no extrem innovative ideas, no real assets.

    Why didn't Facebook go the way of monetizing their system/site before going public ?

    Why didn't they just earn money the "normal" way of simply revving up ad revenue with more aggresive tactics ? (Or with a tactic for the mobile market at all <- Another laughable fact about a company that doesn't generate revenue out of half of it's users simply because they have no system of putting ads up)

    Maybe because they know that as soon as they start to milk the cow aka user they will have a backlash which means loss of users and therefor loss of company worth ? Maybe because they know it's better to get the money now and build up some fat until reality sets in ?

  12. #27
    Senior Member CPL Trevoga's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    In the MP.net Gulag.
    Posts
    2,910

    Default

    Let's create an MP.net group on facebook and friend each other? FB is cool, perpahs it's worth looking at in 6 months when dust settles.

  13. #28
    Senior Member Winger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Brevard County FL
    Age
    37
    Posts
    3,938

    Default

    Whomever didn't realize that this crap was overvalued should go eat a gun. This company is way past exceeding critical mass and peaking. It does have a certain value, that being the attention of it's subscribers which is akin to a gnat.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •