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    Demonstrators attack African migrants in South Tel Aviv

    Likud MK describes Sudanese migrants as cancer; government prepares for mass deportation.

    Hundreds of demonstrators assembled in Tel Aviv's Hatikva neighborhood calling for the ousting of African migrant workers. Some people attacked people attacked Africans that passed by. Others smashed the windows of a grocery store serving the migrant worker community and looted it.

    Another group of demonstrators stopped a shuttle taxi and searched for migrant workers among the passengers, while banging on the windows.

    The crowd cried "The people want the Sudanese deported" and "infiltrators get out of our home." Miri Regev, a Likud Knesset Member said that "the Sudanese were a cancer in our body." 17 protesters were arrested.

    The protesters expressed their dismay with the government's dealings with the "problem" of asylum seekers, especially with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Some people carried signs in support of Interior Minister Eli Yishai who called for the expulsion of the asylum seekers earlier this week.

    The march was organized by Knesset member Michael Ben Ari of the National Union party, along with far-right activists Itamar Ben-Gvir and Baruch Marzel, who runs a neighborhood security group in south Tel Aviv. Organizers said the existence of assistance groups encouraged migrants to cross into Israel.

    Signs carried by the marchers proclaimed messages such as: "This is not Africa" and "Stop talking, start expelling." Another stated that human rights should not be "at the expense of the little guy."

    Before protesters took to the streets, residents of the Hatikva neighborhood got up on an improvised stage at the market to recount violence they had suffered at the hands of the migrants. "The solution," one speaker said, "is us here, them not here." He called for the establishment of a political party that will champion the expulsion of the migrants. "It's not racism," he insisted.

    Carmela Rosner, who has lived in the neighborhood for 27 years, held a sign that read: "They rape girls and elderly women, murder, steal, stab, burglarize. We're afraid to leave home." She complained that longtime residents have become a minority in the neighborhood while the Sudanese, she said, are now in the majority.

    The only way to get the authority's attention, she added, was to cause physical harm to the migrants. "I don't want that to happen, but there's no alternative," she said, though at the same time she acknowledged that "violence is not the answer." Rosner said she used to have sympathy for the newcomers and gave them clothes, but is now afraid to go to the supermarket, even in the early evening. She said the migrants should be dispersed around the country rather than being concentrated in Tel Aviv.

    More anti-migrant demonstrations are planned for this evening in cities around the country where there are large concentration of migrants.

    Government prepares to start mass deportation

    Meanwhile, the government is preparing a mass deportation of refugees back to their South Sudan homeland. Attorney General Yehuda Weinstein next week will argue before the Jerusalem District Court that there is no legal obstacle to the expulsions since individual checks will establish that none of them faces any threat to their lives in South Sudan.

    The Jerusalem District Court recently issued a temporary order prohibiting the migrants' deportation until it rules on a petition filed by five human rights organizations against the state's intent to deport the refugees.

    Weinstein, who has expressed support for sending migrants from South Sudan back home, will ask the court to lift the temporary order preventing their expulsion.
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    First they came* for the Africans.
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't an African.......



    * Apologies to Martin Niemoller

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    Went to a Purim party in South Tel Aviv once. Never liked this part of the city. Knowing the people that I met from there... Im not surprised by this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordie View Post
    First they came* for the Africans.
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't an African.......



    * Apologies to Martin Niemoller
    Yeah Ordie totally the same thing as the Third Reich. dear god but you are a drama queen Propagandist. I Could have said the same feculant crap you did about Oakland California during the riots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordie View Post
    First they came* for the Africans.
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't an African.......



    * Apologies to Martin Niemoller

    You have been warned about playing the nazi card. Enjoy the vacation.

    I can not think of a greater insult to a people then to accuse them of being just like the group that almost annihilated them their whole group in the most barbaric manners possible. I will rethink this action, do not be surprised if your title is changed to banned member for antisemitism.

    Imagine claiming a black American as being akin to the KKK. Imagine accusing women who were violently raped for being the same as their rapist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Noah ה View Post
    Went to a Purim party in South Tel Aviv once. Never liked this part of the city. Knowing the people that I met from there... Im not surprised by this.
    Laws need to be respected. Several thoughts, if law makers do not do their jobs, then the mob will form and do theirs. I have no use for mob violence and I hope the law will take care of them (mob).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordie View Post
    First the played Godwins law
    Fixed it for you.

    In any regard, mobs attacking people shouldn't be tolerated, legal or not. These are hooligans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    Laws need to be respected. Several thoughts, if law makers do not do their jobs, then the mob will form and do theirs. I have no use for mob violence and I hope the law will take care of them (mob).
    I agree. There is just something awkward about that side of town. I have always been a supporter of giving safe refuge to migrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Noah ה View Post
    I agree. There is just something awkward about that side of town.
    Unfortunately we all have some parts of "our" towns that can get very awkward. Laws need to be preserved and those who attacked other people should feel the weight of the law. If anything my feelings go out to those who where attacked. Even if they were illegally in-country, or there by some other mistake, it does not justify anyone beating them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    Unfortunately we all have some parts of "our" towns that can get very awkward. Laws need to be preserved and those who attacked other people should feel the weight of the law. If anything my feelings go out to those who where attacked. Even if they were illegally in-country, or there by some other mistake, it does not justify anyone beating them.
    I believe Israeli's had lost sight that its our duty to help others in this world and this includes migrates to Israel, even if they are illegal. Jews were in the same boat through out history and pockets of people and countries all through out the world and through out history helped the Jews clandestinely. The perps should be brought to justice and we need to understand that the holy land is to help others and not deport them back to impoverished, dangerous lands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    Several thoughts, if law makers do not do their jobs, then the mob will form and do theirs.
    Thing is, if the article is any indication, the lawmakers from the area seem to turn a blind eye to things, if not outright condoning the demonstrators.
    Is there a reason something is "awkward" about that part of town. Depressed area that blames everybody for its misfortune, neighborhood of ivory towers that doesn't like the "filth", etc? Or do the nutters just congregate around there?

    Hope this get's resolved soon and the migrants are helped. Even if the migrants may be illegal, incivility should never be tolerated.

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    Noah and Ira, yes it is "Shame on the government."

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    Quote Originally Posted by IraGlacialis View Post
    Thing is, if the article is any indication, the lawmakers from the area seem to turn a blind eye to things, if not outright condoning the demonstrators.
    Is there a reason something is "awkward" about that part of town. Depressed area that blames everybody for its misfortune, neighborhood of ivory towers that doesn't like the "filth", etc? Or do the nutters just congregate around there?

    Hope this get's resolved soon and the migrants are helped. Even if the migrants may be illegal, incivility should never be tolerated.
    It was just my personal experience in the area. Other Israeli's may have different opinions. It does not really have anything to do per say with the topic at hand but there is allot of refugee's in South Tel Aviv, especially from Darfur. Drug activity in the area as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    Unfortunately we all have some parts of "our" towns that can get very awkward. Laws need to be preserved and those who attacked other people should feel the weight of the law. If anything my feelings go out to those who where attacked. Even if they were illegally in-country, or there by some other mistake, it does not justify anyone beating them.
    I agree with everything you just said,hopefully the government will understand this. If not....then you can start thinking where it will go (stop).

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    60,000 migrants in Israel are akin to 3,000,000 in US - most of them crammed into a small urban area. These are people from the most backwater places on earth with all the associated cultural and behavioral dissimilarities. Look, many of those people deserve sympathy and help, but a country can accept only so many refugees in a short span of time before social fabric begins to break down. Israel is not unique in this case - there were similar outbreaks in Spain in 1999, in Italy in 2010, Greece 2011, and so on.

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