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    K2 is far more dangerous than Everest. Also Everest was once considered to be the largest garbage pit in the world.

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    I heard mountain climbing is an addiction, much more powerful than drugs or the allure of a mistress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BearInBunnySuit View Post
    I heard mountain climbing is an addiction, much more powerful than drugs or the allure of a mistress.
    Not sure about the much more part, but an addiction? Aren't all hobbies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber View Post
    What other reason would be to climb any peak?
    Lots of money as a reward prize, or glorious fame if you're the first ever to do it, because apart from that, no other reason would motivate me to do it. I read somewhere that these people climbing up mount Everest pay up to $70,000 dollars to do this, which is absurd from my perspective; Because it's a good chunk of money to pay to do something that if you're lucky and don't die from doing it, no one, apart from maybe your family and friends, will give two craps about.

    I'd like to see Mount Everest one day, but my ultimate way of doing it would be flying over it on a private jet, and hopefully being attended to by a couple of gorgeous babes, but actually climbing that mountain, and potentially throw my life away for it, lol, no thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZZEZ View Post
    I don't get it, if they see someone in need of help why don't they help climbers in distress by taking them down?
    You are there up because you are selfish, There is no other explanation, as a Climber I can tell you that there are a lot of heroic tales of people who gave up their chances to help others, but thats not the most common attitude.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    K2 is far more dangerous than Everest. Also Everest was once considered to be the largest garbage pit in the world.
    Not only more dangerous, to climb the K2 you need great skills, not only money and endurance. About teh garbage, every year there is an expedition that clean the O canisters and old ropes and the broken tents, but I think they do not touch the bodies.

    Quote Originally Posted by BearInBunnySuit View Post
    I heard mountain climbing is an addiction, much more powerful than drugs or the allure of a mistress.
    yes its an addiction. More powerful than drugs,.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarig View Post
    Not sure about the much more part, but an addiction? Aren't all hobbies?
    No, its an addiction. I Had it once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielc View Post
    Lots of money as a reward prize, or glorious fame if you're the first ever to do it, because apart from that, no other reason would motivate me to do it. I read somewhere that these people climbing up mount Everest pay up to $70,000 dollars to do this, which is absurd from my perspective; Because it's a good chunk of money to pay to do something that if you're lucky and don't die from doing it, no one, apart from maybe your family and friends, will give two craps about.

    I'd like to see Mount Everest one day, but my ultimate way of doing it would be flying over it on a private jet, and hopefully being attended to by a couple of gorgeous babes, but actually climbing that mountain, and potentially throw my life away for it, lol, no thanks.
    we arent going to get rich by climbing, or even guiding, I made some money but not that much. Do you know what impulsed me to risk my life so many times? I liked it. Nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber View Post
    we arent going to get rich by climbing, or even guiding, I made some money but not that much. Do you know what impulsed me to risk my life so many times? I liked it. Nothing else.
    I believe you. By no means do I think it doesn't take work, and I suppose guts, to be willing to do something like that, but it just seems a rather misdirected effort to put into such an endeavor for such little pay off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielc View Post
    I believe you. By no means do I think it doesn't take work, and I suppose guts, to be willing to do something like that, but it just seems a rather misdirected effort to put into such an endeavor for such little pay off.
    Agreed..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber View Post
    You are there up because you are selfish, There is no other explanation, as a Climber I can tell you that there are a lot of heroic tales of people who gave up their chances to help others, but thats not the most common attitude.
    How can that even be legal let alone how can these people justify these actions to themself, I just don't get it...wtf

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZZEZ View Post
    How can that even be legal let alone how can these people justify these actions to themself, I just don't get it...wtf
    There is an article in Ynet about an Israeli Climber that stopped his summit bid to help a Turkey climber, he said that the IDF doctrine made him to do not hesitate to decide what to do. Also the Argentine Team helped some people that was totally mind lost.

    Now, If you have gone up above the 8,000 and you are not good enough, and people around you now that, you aren't going to get much help, and sometimes nobody can help you, and sometimes people is so tired and oxygen deprived that they cant think right. Some people, even if you want to help them are so dipped in **** that you cant do anything about it.

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    Thanks, it reinforces the point that helping is an anomoly instead of common behavior which is just sad, you would expect people to help others in distress in remote locations but it seems that too many people think that climbing that stupid mountain is more important then saving a human life!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZZEZ View Post
    I don't get it, if they see someone in need of help why don't they help climbers in distress by taking them down?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francys_Arsentiev
    They do help each other but there is only so much that they can do and sometimes climbers are left to die.

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    There are 15 Climbers lost in the Andes from sunday, there is a huge snow storm going on.

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    One of the climbers, a 28 yo woman, was found dead, the others are ok, they were training to climb the Aconcagua.

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