Scuffle in Ukraine’s Parliament Thwarts Language Bill Consideration

[Shurik SST]

I know how these things go as Serbs have a similar thing going on with Croats. It is really pathetic how we point fingers and make fun at each others languages or ****unciation while retaining 98% of common grammar and vocabulary and 99.9% mutual intelligibility. I learned that by living in the US. As I became acclimated to the US, it was amazing to view various Eastern Euro ethnicities through American eyes and seeing just how similar we actually are. In the end, Russians and Ukrainians, Baltics, Bulgarians, Serbs, Croats etc all end up hanging with each other, listening to the same music, going out to the same places, wearing the same clothes. You can just pick out Eastern Euros from a crowd by their tight pants and point shoes.

[metberkut]

Maybe not for Ukrainians but us and Czechs are making fun of it in every discussion to article regarding aircraft. However it is still not as funny as samochod or Polish szukat (in Polish it means "looking for something", in Slovak and Czech it is "to fvck").

"Shukat" is also used in Ukranian, and also means "looking for something". Another funny example is "Spitchky hochesh?". In russian that means "Want a match?" (literally, more or less) but its meaning is more like "Need a fire?" (if someone needs to light up a cigarette). In Serbian it means "Want vag!na?"

[Grax]

To a Russian speaker Ukranian does sound very funny. Better terms would be archaic and lacking word richness rather than awkward.

For example words like "letak" for an airplane are a source of many lols from Russian speakers.

Probably yours is better "archaic and lacking word richness".

I never considered Czech to funny. However their accent is so nice. I never pulled myself to be angry at Czech, they always sound so uplifting, cheerful, enjoying their life and such, it´s like a looking at puppy.

"Ahoij" the best part of their language!

[IconOfEvi]

I never considered Czech to funny. However their accent is so nice. I never pulled myself to be angry at Czech, they always sound so uplifting, cheerful, enjoying their life and such, it´s like a looking at puppy.

We had a Czech exchange student in my final HS year, and sometimes I'd ask she speak in Czech to serenade me, oh that voice/accent was so lovely

Though I like all East Euro/Slavic accents/languages in general. Mischa was her name I think

[kalerab]

"Shukat" is also used in Ukranian, and also means "looking for something". Another funny example is "Spitchky hochesh?". In russian that means "Want a match?" (literally, more or less) but its meaning is more like "Need a fire?" (if someone needs to light up a cigarette). In Serbian it means "Want vag!na?"

So does in Slovak.

But Polish offers more variants like

Transport drogowy - road transport (in Slovak it sounds like drug transportation)
Sprostowania - correction (stupidity)

After all

"Ahoij" the best part of their language!

We have that too. Imagine my surprise when as a kid I learned that it is used by sailors.

We had a Czech exchange student in my final HS year, and sometimes I'd ask she speak in Czech to serenade me, oh that voice/accent was so lovely

Though I like all East Euro/Slavic accents/languages in general. Mischa was her name I think

Míša is short for Michaela. And funnily enough Czechs think the same thing about Polish or our language. Several of them said to me that our swearing sounds nice and we swear a lot and unlike Poles we don´t just use kurwa for everything, but we upgrade it, create a new words, even if they don´t make a sense. We are damn good at it.

[Grax]

We have that too. Imagine my surprise when as a kid I learned that it is used by sailors.

A friend of mine is a "czechoslovakian" it was also a big surprise for me arrrrr

[JCR]

The czechs are the slavic variant of Austrians
The accent even sounds the same.
And the mentality is very similar.
Hundreds of years of Habsburg rule can do that to you...

[Arbody]

Several of them said to me that our swearing sounds nice and we swear a lot and unlike Poles we don´t just use kurwa for everything, but we upgrade it, create a new words, even if they don´t make a sense. We are damn good at it.

Nah, kurwa is most strong swear in da world second place goes for pizdec. But belive me that Polish is reach in swearing .

The czechs are the slavic variant of Austrians

The accent even sounds the same.
And the mentality is very similar.
Hundreds of years of Habsburg rule can do that to you...

Present Chech is artificial language as I said before, that's why it sounds strange .

[Sashko]

As I became acclimated to the US, it was amazing to view various Eastern Euro ethnicities through American eyes and seeing just how similar we actually are. In the end, Russians and Ukrainians, Baltics, Bulgarians, Serbs, Croats etc all end up hanging with each other, listening to the same music, going out to the same places, wearing the same clothes. You can just pick out Eastern Euros from a crowd by their tight pants and point shoes.

Don't forget the staple of "born in USSR" glamor - Adidas track pants and flat hats.

Thankfully, the pointy Alladin shoes are slowly going away.

[Shurik SST]

Don't forget the staple of "born in USSR" glamor - Adidas track pants and flat hats.

Thankfully, the pointy Alladin shoes are slowly going away.

Hah, that's like the Easter Euro uniform. Gold chain, short hair, tight Armani shirt and Adidas pants. Accessorized by a slightly used or a few years old BMW or Merc bought at the discount Middle Eastern guy owned dealership in town. Hahaha.

[marat]

What about that Bill in Ukraina, did it pass the parliament?

[Grax]

Hah, that's like the Easter Euro uniform. Gold chain, short hair, tight Armani shirt and Adidas pants. Accessorized by a slightly used or a few years old BMW or Merc bought at the discount Middle Eastern guy owned dealership in town. Hahaha.

LOL that's so true !

[Breakfast in Vegas]

Don't forget the staple of "born in USSR" glamor - Adidas track pants and flat hats.

Thankfully, the pointy Alladin shoes are slowly going away.

I recently saw the new 2012 Spring collection... beige woven leather pointy Aladdin shoes, no socks, combined neatly with an oversized shiny silver grey suit straight from the rinok. Nice... just missing the gopnik hat.

[Flamming_Python]

Better start learning Chinese then, going by your logic.

Language isn't just a mean of communication, it is part of the cultural heritage. Ukraine has the right to act in a manner they choose to.

If they act to restrict the rights or oppurtunities of Russian speakers more so than practised in any normal European country in regards to any linguistic minority group - Russia has a full right to act in the manner it chooses to in regards to the Ukraine too, I do believe. And Europe should say something too, since they are so focussed on protecting the rights of various minorities; but since the EU are a bunch of hypocrites of the biggest magnitude; they will stay silent.

And really, they would be dumb in order to create a situation where Ukrainians won't know Russian anymore as a result of getting rid of Russian everywhere in their society - something like that will simply hurt their development hugely over the long-term.

[Ataman]

If they act to restrict the rights or oppurtunities of Russian speakers more so than practised in any normal European country in regards to any linguistic minority group - Russia has a full right to act in the manner it chooses to in regards to the Ukraine too, I do believe. And Europe should say something too, since they are so focussed on protecting the rights of various minorities; but since the EU are a bunch of hypocrites of the biggest magnitude; they will stay silent.

And really, they would be dumb in order to create a situation where Ukrainians won't know Russian anymore as a result of getting rid of Russian everywhere in their society - something like that will simply hurt their development hugely over the long-term.

I don't think they actually care about it. It's probably more connected to the long-term project of "nation-building" which seems to be quite effective as far as language is concerned.