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    Committee approves legislation calling for accurate account of Palestinians funded by UNRWA

    Yitzhak Benhorin

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    The legislation is led by Republican Senator Mark Kirk, who aims to examine how the number of refugees who receive aid grew from 750,000 in 1950 to 5 million today. Roughly a third of UNRWA's recipients live in camps in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.

    The bill also seeks to define how many generations of the original asylum seekers, many of whom have passed away, are to be considered refugees.
    While the bill's primary goal is to cut US aid, the issue of whether to count refugees and their descendants is a divisive one. In the long run, the legislation would determine who is eligible for the right of return – a major bone of contention between Israel and the Palestinians.

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    Kirk claims that UNRWA, which is primarily funded by the US, perpetuates the refugee problem by extending the status to decedents who are no longer refugees.

    In 1965, despite opposition from the US, the UN decided to in define as refugees the children and grandchildren of those who fled their homes in the years 1946-1949. A resolution from 1982 defines Palestinian refugees as those who have fled their homes and their decedents.


    FULL ARTICLE: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...234381,00.html

    This is a step in the right direction: to cut the funds and to dismantle UNRWA. An agency with ever increasing population of "professional" refugees for whom - thankfully to UNRWA and to the Arab League - 64 years were not a long enough period of time to rehabilitate them.
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    UNRWA shouldn't have been created in the first place.

    Sadly or funnily enough (depends how you look at it) the Palestinians are the ones who have been cursed the most by its existence.

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    If you never allow a people to integrate into their host society, their status is perpetual refugees......... yeah the population will grow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    Committee approves legislation calling for accurate account of Palestinians funded by UNRWA

    Yitzhak Benhorin

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    The legislation is led by Republican Senator Mark Kirk, who aims to examine how the number of refugees who receive aid grew from 750,000 in 1950 to 5 million today. Roughly a third of UNRWA's recipients live in camps in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.

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    Good on the bolded above. I'd like to hear how the numbers are so inflated, even with the natural growth. ESPECIALLY since from the Pals to the leftys, how they like to claim/scream that Israel is commiting a 'genocide' against them.

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    There was a thread here that extensively discussed the issue. It involved me and the Israeli Strong Brigade. The UNRWA direct funding to Palestinians (cash in hand) is ... peanuts. The count deals with families and the offspring.

    The initial number was between 850 to 950 K refugees (UNRWA numbers). I'll try to find it.

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    Kudos to Mark Kirk.

    The world will be better a place without UNRWA.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    If you never allow a people to integrate into their host society, their status is perpetual refugees......... yeah the population will grow.
    A corollary is that only Palestinians claim generational refugee status. No other group passes the classification of refugee on to their off-spring.

    Culpability for these generational refugees lies with the governments and NGO's that perpetuate the refugee problem for their own political benefit.

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    At the present, UNRWA annual budget is superior to $1B a year. And it's going on for 64 years without the Palestinian refugees being rehabilitated.

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    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...ighlight=UNRWA

    How can they be rehabilitated anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sideline View Post
    Good on the bolded above. I'd like to hear how the numbers are so inflated, even with the natural growth. ESPECIALLY since from the Pals to the leftys, how they like to claim/scream that Israel is commiting a 'genocide' against them.
    Lots of kinky ***?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOrangeMan View Post
    Lots of kinky ***?
    LOL, and perhaps some cloning too? Amazing to skyrocket while a 'genocide' is apon them. lol again, could be more like "kinky" math and intentions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe View Post
    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...ighlight=UNRWA

    How can they be rehabilitated anyway?
    Well Danik was a refugee, and then Danik received citizenship from the United States of America, and just like that Danik was no longer a refugee. Problem solved in one generation.

    The biggest irony is their fellow Arabs, willing to die for them and kill all the Jews for them, yet wont grant them citizenship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danik View Post
    Well Danik was a refugee, and then Danik received citizenship from the United States of America, and just like that Danik was no longer a refugee. Problem solved in one generation.

    The biggest irony is their fellow Arabs, willing to die for them and kill all the Jews for them, yet wont grant them citizenship.
    http://www.icrc.org/eng/resources/do...isc/634kfc.htm

    I will put this here as I am not ready to open up the can of worms. Furthermore you cannot force someone to accept a citizenship. Although even the US government didn't really gave it to you, as for the fact you were demanding it.

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    If you work to integrate a refugee population then you most probably won't need to "force" them to become citizens.

    Case and point: Jordan.

    Nevermind that for some mysterious reason UNRWA counts people who are Jordanian citizens as "refugees".
    That's pretty much the same as calling people of Irish heritage in the U.S "refugees".

    The Arab states not wanting to integrate the Palestinians is the whole reason UNRWA was created in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EITAN88 View Post
    If you work to integrate a refugee population then you most probably won't need to "force" them to become citizens.

    Case and point: Jordan.

    The Arab states not wanting to integrate the Palestinians is the whole reason UNRWA was created in the first place.
    I'd bring the Jewish example in Europe as the most controversial, yet most vivid counter-example about a potentially failed integration.

    It has less to do with integration, it has to do with a dystopic view of the hosts and guests. As you are not an immigrant, ans surely not under duress, you cannot by essence, understand that.

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    The responsibility relies on the Arab League whose members decided to not allow their integration, nor the integration of their descendants, and on the PLO that is a member of the Arab League.
    Almost 3 generation later, it's time to dismantle UNRWA and let them deal with the situation.

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