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    KANSAS CITY, Kan., May 25 (*******) - Republican Kansas Governor Sam Brownback signed a bill aimed at keeping state courts and agencies from using Islamic or other non-U.S. laws when making decisions, his office said on Friday, drawing criticism from a national Muslim group.The law has been dubbed the "sharia bill" because critics say it targets the Islamic legal code. Sharia, or Islamic law, covers all aspects of Muslim life, including religious obligations and financial dealings. Opponents of state bans say they could nullify wills or legal contracts between Muslims.
    Supporters said the law will reassure foreigners in Kansas that state laws and the U.S. Constitution would protect them. Opponents said it singled out Muslims for ridicule and was unnecessary because American laws prevail on U.S. soil.
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    Is this seriously a problem in East F*cktard, Kansas? No.

    Pandering sh*thead paranoid legislation based on nothing.

    It's like passing a law that outlaws defying gravity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by California Joe View Post
    Is this seriously a problem in East F*cktard, Kansas? No.

    Pandering sh*thead paranoid legislation based on nothing.
    Yup. It says it's to protect Kansas citizens from influence of foreign courts. I'd love to see some examples of that.

    From Fox News:
    "This bill should provide protection for Kansas citizens from the application of foreign laws," said Stephen Gele, spokesman for the American Public Policy Alliance, a Michigan group promoting model legislation similar to the new Kansas law. "The bill does not read, in any way, to be discriminatory against any religion."But supporters have worried specifically about Shariah law being applied in Kansas court cases, and the alliance says on its website that it wants to protect Americans' freedoms from "infiltration" by foreign laws and legal doctrines, "especially Islamic Shariah Law."

    ooh, infiltration. Sounds dangerous.

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    So what does this law do beside annulling marriages that were made in arabic countries?

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    Wonder how much this cost.

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    And thus, thanks to the courage of a few daring Kansas legislators, the imminent islamic takeover of Kansas was prevented.

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    Any court, arbitration, tribunal or administrative agency ruling
    or decision shall violate the public policy of this state and be void and
    unenforceable if ... that would not grant the parties affected by the ruling
    or decision the same fundamental liberties, right's and privileges granted under
    the United States and Kansas constitutions,including, but not limited to, equal
    protection, due process, free exercise of religion, freedom of speech or press,
    and any right of privacy or marriage.
    ...
    Nothing in this act shall be construed to allow a court to ... violate the
    prohibitions of the religion clauses of the first amendment to the constitution
    of the United States, or violate the constitution of the state of Kansas.
    ...
    Without prejudice to any legal right, this act shall not apply
    to a corporation, association, partnership, limited liability company, limited
    liability partnership or other legal entity that contracts to subject itself
    to foreign law or courts in a jurisdiction other than this state or the United
    States.

    Law effective May 21, 2012
    http://www.kslegislature.org/li/b2011_12/measures/sb79/

    http://www.kslegislature.org/li/b201...9_enrolled.pdf

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    Seems like these people keep nipping at the heels. The Gov is preventing what they desperately want and he's smart enough to act before there is a major issue. The Muslim population is growing in the US and they want Sharia. He is sending a message and it is one Islamists need to accept.

    Also, Muslims feel an anti-Sharia bill is "discriminatory". Why? The US is no place for that sh!tstain methodology.
    http://news.yahoo.com/cair-kansas-mu...201604377.html
    http://globalmbreport.org/?p=2970&ut...+Daily+Report)

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    Muslims have resided in the US before, I've never heard them opting for Sharia in penal or civil law.

    Dearborn sounds like an example of Arab Muslims.

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    The Oakland Press and the Dearborn Press & Guide are teaming up in a series of video reports entitled “Muslim Secrets.” The videos are being produced by Oakland Press reporter Aftab Borka, a journalist from Pakistan who has done reporting for CBS. The first video in the series, asks American Muslims , “Do Muslims want sharia law in America? ” But rather than giving answers, the report only moves along the “Islamization of knowledge” in America.

    Borka interviews a handful of Muslims, some of them religious figures, some not, like an Oakland University student and the chief of oncology at ********. None of the them actually answered the question, “do you want Sharia law in America?” Nor did any of them define what Sharia is to them.

    Instead, Borka explains thus: “Not surprisingly, every Muslim interviewed for this report had a different and not-so-straight answer. All of them had a different interpretation of Sharia law.”“Not surprisingly”? I think that’s surprising. Especially the tidbit about his interviewees not giving straight answers. Have Borka’s Muslims got something to hide? Isn’t this supposed to reveal the American Muslims’ attitude towards Sharia, straight from the horse’s mouth? This doesn’t bode well for unveiling “Muslim Secrets.”

    Combine the not-so-straight answers with the one point on which Borka’s sources do all agree: “don’t believe what the opponents say,” and it leaves a reader no place to turn for the facts. So, “to understand what Sharia law really means” in the context of all this muddy thinking, who better can Borka turn to than one who preaches Sharia – our old friend Dawud Walid.

    “Well,” explains, Walid:
    Sharia and law will not necessarily be the best two phrases to conjoin or combine together. But Sharia simply means a path toward faithfulness of how a Muslim seeks to live a life holistically pleasing God. This ranges from our ritual worship to regulating how we are involved in ethical transaction of businesses.



    2. In 1998, CAIR’s national chairman, Omar Ahmad,
    told his Muslim listeners that
    Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.


    3. The Muslim Brotherhood’s/Ikhwan’s stated goal in North America
    is kind of a grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions. [...] It is a Muslim's destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes.


    http://dearbornunderground.blogspot....e-for-now.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by JCR View Post
    And thus, thanks to the courage of a few daring Kansas legislators, the imminent islamic takeover of Kansas was prevented.
    Praise the Lord!!!! Hallelujah!!!

    All joking aside, this is a message that needs to be sent, so I agree with Brownback's measure. Muslims in the United States need to understand that their allegiance lies with the Constitution and written secular laws of America, and not with whatever crazyness some camel merchant might have hallucinated centuries ago. That goes for all religions. This is the world of men, therefore we are the ones who make the rules. If some deity has an issue with that, there's has been plenty of opportunities to intervene in last 2000 years.

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    I'm still waiting for someone to show me where Muslims, who've been here for quite a long time, were clamoring for Shia law to be instituted in the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominique View Post
    I'm still waiting for someone to show me where Muslims, who've been here for quite a long time, were clamoring for Shia law to be instituted in the US?
    Read Mein Teil's post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mein Teil View Post
    The Oakland Press and the Dearborn Press & Guide are teaming up in a series of video reports entitled “Muslim Secrets.” The videos are being produced by Oakland Press reporter Aftab Borka, a journalist from Pakistan who has done reporting for CBS. The first video in the series, asks American Muslims , “Do Muslims want sharia law in America? ” But rather than giving answers, the report only moves along the “Islamization of knowledge” in America.

    Borka interviews a handful of Muslims, some of them religious figures, some not, like an Oakland University student and the chief of oncology at ********. None of the them actually answered the question, “do you want Sharia law in America?” Nor did any of them define what Sharia is to them.

    Instead, Borka explains thus: “Not surprisingly, every Muslim interviewed for this report had a different and not-so-straight answer. All of them had a different interpretation of Sharia law.”“Not surprisingly”? I think that’s surprising. Especially the tidbit about his interviewees not giving straight answers. Have Borka’s Muslims got something to hide? Isn’t this supposed to reveal the American Muslims’ attitude towards Sharia, straight from the horse’s mouth? This doesn’t bode well for unveiling “Muslim Secrets.”

    Combine the not-so-straight answers with the one point on which Borka’s sources do all agree: “don’t believe what the opponents say,” and it leaves a reader no place to turn for the facts. So, “to understand what Sharia law really means” in the context of all this muddy thinking, who better can Borka turn to than one who preaches Sharia – our old friend Dawud Walid.

    “Well,” explains, Walid:
    Sharia and law will not necessarily be the best two phrases to conjoin or combine together. But Sharia simply means a path toward faithfulness of how a Muslim seeks to live a life holistically pleasing God. This ranges from our ritual worship to regulating how we are involved in ethical transaction of businesses.

    2. In 1998, CAIR’s national chairman, Omar Ahmad,
    told his Muslim listeners that
    Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.

    3. The Muslim Brotherhood’s/Ikhwan’s stated goal in North America
    is kind of a grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions. [...] It is a Muslim's destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes.


    http://dearbornunderground.blogspot....e-for-now.html


    Exactly what I was expecting from you. A blog interpreting, demonizing and linking two completely unrelated points. Muslims in Dearborn an CAIR. But hey nothing beats fearmongering. Btw your source should drop honor killings from his Sharia Induced crime list. There is no such thing as honor killings in the classical Muslim doxa.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOrangeMan View Post
    Read Mein Teil's post.
    What about his post?

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    Most American Muslims/Arabs are well integrated and don't represent a threat to America at all.

    How many Muslims are there in Kansas, anyway ?

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