Reply With QuoteWhat, buy another hardline Islamic government? No thanks, I'm for staying out. Nothing good can come from intervention here.
Assad is laughing at the Gutless West
Let's be honest he is offcourse some will say otherwise when your in such a position known full well the Might of the Western powers will not do jack **** to remove him .. rather Moan from afar than take decisive action and he's played his poker hand brilliantly .. because he knows the politicians prefer to moan than act because of current financial constraints that some nations have in place and right now he's in the position he know's fine well no matter how many reports of Mass killing of civillains there is Western Leaders simply don't have the balls to lift a finger .
And throughout the entire sad situation the West cares more about Iran's Nuclear agenda than giving a flying **** about Civilians killed by Assad's troops ,
What, buy another hardline Islamic government? No thanks, I'm for staying out. Nothing good can come from intervention here.
Wasn't he just laughing in the Mirror?
If you want to be brutally honest about the situation, a nuclear Iran has more chance of having a direct effect on a Western power. What is happening to the Syrian citizens is awful but I think the West is out of the nation building game.Originally Posted by timetraveller
Get yourself a gun and transportation and have a go.
Nobody is laughing in Syria. It's a sh!t fest. Perhaps the ones laughing are those that are stoking the fire from a distance.
what interest does any western govt have in intervening there? Assad is bad, but what comes after Assad is worse. We've all seen how this 'spring' played out, no sane government will send their citizens to possibly get killed fighting for another Islamist movement. Let them sort their own problems out and forge their own social contract. In case anyone hasnt noticed, Europe is not exactly in great economical shape at the moment.
A semi-fundamentalist anti-western islamist government, would be a better option as long as they're not killing people.
I'd agree.
Assad and his crew are certainly not laughing....their tiny minority grip on the country, once lost, will never return and they don't have many options having painted themselves into a corner with blood.
Israel will not be laughing, better the incompetent devil you know than a more capable devil waiting in the shadows.
The US/EU will not be finding this particularly funny since Syria going off like a dodgy Chinese fireworks factory is not exactly making an unpredictable and volatile region and more predictable or less volatile.
Iran will not be laughing since they've got a big investment in this regime and few friends.
Russia will not be telling jokes since they're still owed big money by Syria from the 80's.
Turkey will definitely NOT be laughing since they're stuck with an expensive refugee crisis and a failed state on their border.
I think the only people laughing would be the Muslim Brotherhood and islamists......the more people die and the more the country burns the better the chances of them gaining power.
Learning from the mistakes of the Iranian revolution.......I reckon this time they put on a pretty western face......play the game with western diplomats and especially western media.....put on a friendly face.
Meanwhile.....go all kinds of Muslim Boss Tweed/Tammany Hall political jihad...and put a vice around the country's future political system.....who cares who is the front man......Muslim Brotherhood can call all the shots.
The only folks laughing are the Muslim Brotherhood.
Just my 0.02c
Nothing will get done in Syria. If anything it will be up to Russia. Russia is the player who has interest in the country. The West does not.
In a way it's like other despotic regimes. The West will only get involved if
1. They have something to gain.
2. The target nation is easy to knock over.
3. A viable, Western friendly regime is waiting in the shadows.
However I do believe that the West has learned a great deal since Afghanist/Iraq and what has taken place in Libya and Egypt. There really is no alternatives to the likes of Saddam, Assad, Mubarak and Qhadaffi. The irony about everything is that out of all of Arab world, these four guys were more West leaning then Saudia Arabia.
Then the Syrians should sort it out themselves. The west has no business in building backwards wacko governments which would probably cause us problems in the future one way or another.
timetraveller, correct me if Im wrong, but dont you constantly slam our interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan and now Libya?
The last decades Syria has been a strong anti-western pariah state just like Libya, sponsoring attacks on western target.
Things go bad in Syria and the "West" has to run to the help of Syrians? I do not get it. All these year the west was their enemy.
The "west" is not being portrayed as weak and nobody is laughing at the "west".
The world is laughing on the Arab states that cannot for once make a collective decision and act on it, solve an actual crisis.
Arab league is to laugh for.
By the way the Syrian "resistance has way too many jihadis in their ranks and the ied videos they post shows they are mostly Iraqi insurgency veterans. Assad is reaping the fruits of his past decisions.
Egypt and their "modern facebook revolution" is electing the grandfather umbrella organization of all terror organizations the Muslim Brotherhood even though the protestors were crying for democracy and human rights.
In Tunisia the Islamists have resurrected in large numbers and organizing "morality police" patrols attacking shops, people and lately the security forces.
I am afraid to imagine what kind of people will seize power in Syria once Assad falls. For some reason Islamist are very effective at hijacking revolutions. Either that or people just want them there.
Lybia surprisingly has not shown islamist activity but it is too early to come to a conclusion.
Lybia was close, desert terrain and easy accessible, but Syrian geography, location, size does not help a lot.
EU has enough critical economic problems to deal with yet another Arab problem.
Assad will fall but not with NATO firepower.
You do realise that a nuclear Iran (well known sponsor of Syria) will make it even harder for the West to act in the region, right? Then again shorsightedness seems to be a strong trait of yours.
It's sad to see Assad butcher civilians however I can't help but agree with the majority in this thread. Arabs killing Arabs isn't new and who knows if it will change even when Assad is gone. There is a pretty good chance that an Islamist state that is perhaps just as bad if not worse will follow.
That's how we think isn't it "how can we help these people, in a way that benefits us?"
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