Reply With QuoteWhen we talk about interfering it's about implementing our idea of democracy and human rights, not theirs. They have to find their own way, ours doesn't work for them, there's too much cultural differences. But we could still do something.
Bullshit, maybe you should stop twisting my words.Originally Posted by hattusili
As Al-Bundy already said, there are a whole lot of jihadis running around in Syria which have fought in Iraq and despise the west.
Now they cry for our help but if we help them we will find ourself with a failed state that will develop into an even worse mess with radical islam spreading further and further. I somehow cannot see these people being overly thankful for our involvement.
And it's not like there haven't been any other examples for exactly this scenario.
I for one don't want to waste human life, and tax money in a vain attempt of bringing democracy and human rights to a country and society which is clearly not ready for it.
When we talk about interfering it's about implementing our idea of democracy and human rights, not theirs. They have to find their own way, ours doesn't work for them, there's too much cultural differences. But we could still do something.
You could always fly to a neighboring country, cross into Syria and join the rebels. of course that measn taking an active part not just armchair Monty'ing on here..... He-Ro....
I'm against any foreign military intervention in Syria, and I don't realistically see it happening anyway.
There's no political will for a new military campaign in the west, after spending the last 10 years trying to find conditions acceptable to withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan. NATO has had a difficult time finding sufficient troops for ISAF, I can't imagine many NATO nations willing to provide ground troops for what could easily turn out to be another expensive foreign occupation.
FWIW, the only foreign military intervention I could realistically forsee is one by Turkey, to be reinforced/replaced by UN forces drawn mainly from fellow muslim nations. However as I don't see Turkey/Erdogan undertaking this task and as China and Russia would swiftly vote down sending any UN forces to Syria, that's not going to happen either.
Yeah, and what is wrong with it? Nothing's free. Especially not to people that are so culturally distant that they might as well be from Mars.
If you wanted brotherly love and free-of-charge internationalism, then should've gone with communism as a dominant ideology.
Oh please, there's no such thing. Every islamist government on this world is funding terrorist groups.
Syria has too many ethnic groups and religions.
Chances of an ethnic-religious-separatist war is almost a certainty now.
Can I help?
If this is not a separatist civil war already then I don't know what is.
It's basically Sunni versus Alawite (Shia) with the Druze and the Cristinians having to chose sides (wouldn't be surprised if the majority support the Alawites).
You forget the Kurds.
They will form their own Kurdistan and isolate themselves from the chaos of the coming violence.
Just like in Iraq.
I hope they do.
The... "West"... isn't to blame here.
Frankly, the world would be a better place if Russia and China weren't members of the United Nations Security Council.
PKK doesn't seem to mind Al-Assad though. I read a few months ago the PKK is keeping down Kurdish dissenters in Syria.
Interesting, that fits in with my theory that the minorities support Assad (on the most part) and the Alawite hegemony as they fear what will happen after his fall.
You don't say? Maybe it would be all flowers and unicorns like...forever right?
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