Reply With Quoteis this considered as an act of war
I heard a rumour back in the 90's that US special forces blew up some trains or railway lines in North Korea.
is this considered as an act of war
Only if you get caught...Originally Posted by HHH816
yeah, quite true
Special reconnaissance doesn't incorporate 'traipsing around the place', the main idea is to not be detected, you don't mingle with the locals. It's not a Hollywood spy-movie.
That being said, the story sounded dubious from the get go, and, as others have pointed out, is probably just 'creative' journalism gone wrong.
Here's the official USFK statement:
And here's another article on Brig. Gen. Tolley's comments at said conference, strangely enough, no mentioning of US or ROK forces parachuting into NK:Brig. Gen. Tolley recently participated in a theater special operations command commander panel discussion at a Special Operations Forces industry conference. Some reporting has taken great liberal license with his comments and taken him completely out of context. Quotes have been made up and attributed to him. No U.S. or ROK forces have parachuted into North Korea. Though special reconnaissance is a core special operations force mission, at no time have SOF forces been sent to the north to conduct special reconnaissance. The use of tunnels in North Korea is well documented. Several of the known tunnels along the DMZ are visited by tourists every day.
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.o...st.aspx?ID=800
This story will certainly stimulate the North's paranoia.
We also maintain one commando team inside North Korea that hides under Kim Jung Un's bed.
clarification coming from "news" generator.
http://www.warisboring.com/2012/05/2...-forces-story/
"...I told The Diplomat I will step down as a regular contributor. I want to spare them any additional damage. But let me be clear: Tolley did not state that he was speaking hypothetically. And he described in detail his need (either at present or eventually, conditionally — he did not specify) to “leap” forces north with ever-lighter and better equipment. I’m told that represents a present or potential violation of the Koreas’ armistice. Which, apparently, USFK takes very seriously … though Pyongyang does not...."
Probably it's in MOD interests to provide some general insights into military lingo. For example the prevalence of present time in military speech.
I find discussion http://freekorea.us/2012/05/28/reall...o-north-korea/
most interesting (especially what is written in the comments).
This noise would be avoided if David Axe's followed the basic rule of journalism: to contact subject of the story and ask him for details and always needed clarifications.
Oh, so now that lying f*ck is trying to cover up his own ass?
Guess he took "we send" in the present tense and not in the hypothetical.
That guy just posted a email sent to him from a Lt. Col. that was at the same conference and he claims to have heard the same statement that the reporter made.
Anyone with even the slightest knowledge of N. Korea will realize that there is really little truth to Brig Gen Tolley's comments as reported. Infiltrations into North Korea by ROK special op forces are usually via land or sea and far too many of them never make it back. Parachuting? Yes it sounds cool but I think it's highly unlikely. The two Koreas have faced off for over 65 years. If these parachute drops were taking place regularly, I'm sure the Norks would have found ways to hunt down the infiltrators and used them as pawns.
The ROK never "parachuted" to the North. It was either by the DMZ or by the sea.
BTW, why send Americans in first place? Aren't Americans easily noticible among Koreans? Even the South had the strict rules for the shape.
That story looked fake from the beginning... the most interesting thing it's that the Kcna spent neither a line about it, while they daily spent pages about all the military training and exercise done by SK and US. And most important of all, these are not the news that escalate the situation, as it wasn't the one of the famous "chinese fishermen kidnapped" all released after 13 days, and they were not "pirates" but NK boats operating against chinese's fishing on the border... and speaking about "border" is easy everyone say "I was in my side of the border".
For this year i think we've seen enaugh from NK, and i'm not sure that we will seen a nuclear test just now...
Still i think we could see another little naval clash... that's more probable then "war movie"'s style parachute inflitrations.
(and i'm totally thrilled at the idea of watching a clash between the new SK patrol boat and the new NK nemesis, both using derivative of our italian-made 76mm gun)
All I got out of the speech is that the US National Guard kicks ass. Good enough for me.
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