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    Default New LMG for the U.S Army in testing phase

    or something like that...

    http://www.army.mil/article/80320/

    Says it uses a new lightweight ammunition. I am a bit hesitant about what exactly that is, I guess I'll have to wait and see.


    Anyone got any more info on this?

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    It is the LSAT LMG. It comes in two flavors currently, caseless ammo or polymer ammo. It is lighter, more accurate, and has considerably less recoil so far in testing. It also comes with the ability to fire in semi auto as well.

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    That is an overwhelmingly small survey sample size. I wonder why the 4 of 19 people still prefer the M249 after the test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death. View Post
    That is an overwhelmingly small survey sample size. I wonder why the 4 of 19 people still prefer the M249 after the test.
    Probably the same reason people favored the m14 over the m16. New fangled technology never goes over well at first, especially when replacing a tried and true system.

    And yes yes I know people also favored the m14 for its round size bla bla bla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suhsjake View Post
    It is the LSAT LMG.
    Main target is potential lawyers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerChallenge View Post
    Probably the same reason people favored the m14 over the m16. New fangled technology never goes over well at first, especially when replacing a tried and true system.

    And yes yes I know people also favored the m14 for its round size bla bla bla.
    Only things wrong with the M14 as Issued in 1965 was uncontrollable muzzle rise on full automatic and the 20 rd magazine... New fangled technology isnt always the be all end all. Which is why the M-14 is still in use 45 years after it was supposedly obsoleted, and why their still is arguments over Gas Piston versus Inpingment, caliber size...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    Only things wrong with the M14 as Issued in 1965 was uncontrollable muzzle rise on full automatic and the 20 rd magazine... New fangled technology isnt always the be all end all. Which is why the M-14 is still in use 45 years after it was supposedly obsoleted, and why their still is arguments over Gas Piston versus Inpingment, caliber size...
    Wait I'm agreeing that older technology isn't bad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    Only things wrong with the M14 as Issued in 1965 was uncontrollable muzzle rise on full automatic and the 20 rd magazine... New fangled technology isnt always the be all end all. Which is why the M-14 is still in use 45 years after it was supposedly obsoleted, and why their still is arguments over Gas Piston versus Inpingment, caliber size...
    Sure, from the shooter's point of view. But from an organization, there's per-unit cost, materials, manufacturing efficiency and ammo cost. I'm sure such factors were considered when replacing a weapon. Sooner or later the old machine wears out and that provides an opportunity to ask whether it could be replaced with something cheaper...sorry, better...

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    Quote Originally Posted by budgie View Post
    Sure, from the shooter's point of view. But from an organization, there's per-unit cost, materials, manufacturing efficiency and ammo cost. I'm sure such factors were considered when replacing a weapon. Sooner or later the old machine wears out and that provides an opportunity to ask whether it could be replaced with something cheaper...sorry, better...
    The M14 was originally in service for less than a decade, and with some units, less than five years. No M14 was replaced because of wear and tear.

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    Hasn't there been issues with a polymer cased round? As well as case-less? Not able to hold up well in a wet environment.

    A static range is one thing, but if it survives a few cycles through Florida with 6th Bat checking it, I would assume it's good to go.

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    LSAT may seriously change the game.

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