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    Default This is what it looks like when fighters fly directly at you in anger...

    An insanely daring (or insane) attack against the HMS Broadsword, where two A-4 Skyhawks made a shockingly low run during the Falklands war. Read more here

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    An Old trick in WWII was to hit the water in front of oncoming aircraft. the Geyser was like flying into concrete if done correctly.

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    Those A4 pilots the Argentinian Air Force had had massive ********s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    An Old trick in WWII was to hit the water in front of oncoming aircraft. the Geyser was like flying into concrete if done correctly.
    With a slow japanese Val, you probably could. With a fast jet, it would be a bit more difficult. Those argentinian pilots were quite good. A good thing their bombs often failed to explode because they were dropped from too low an altitude to arm, if i understand it correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    An Old trick in WWII was to hit the water in front of oncoming aircraft. the Geyser was like flying into concrete if done correctly.
    Problem was the british had nothing to do that with.
    You see the rather tiny amount of splashes and airbursts compared with WW2 footage.
    At the time of the Falklands, missiles had almost totally replaced guns, but after Falklands, guns reappeared because missiles were not as effective as thought.
    According to the article, the Seawolf system could not decide which of the two Skyhawks to engage, so it simply reset and didn't engage either...
    Apparently the computer was to sort the radar contacts via a threat prioritization list (same as the US CIWS) and engage the most threatening first, but the two A-4s were practically at the same range and same speed, so they could not be prioritized over one another.
    This froze the system. A blue screen of death in the middle of a air raid.
    Fortunately the argentine bombs didn't work either.

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    If you can get a Copy, After the Battle publishing has a Book The Falklands war then and now, which has some good interviews with the ARA pilots and the British who fought them with everything from SLRs and GPMG's to Harriers.

    Blowpipe and Rapier had some issues

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    I wonder how they fixed this bug, probably they introduced a code that randomly chooses one of the targets if two targets are classified with the same threat level.
    However, in 1982 such software changes still meant replacing memory modules that weighed kilograms.
    Today if a similarly embarrassing bug showed up in a Type 45, you could probably just download a fix over satelite

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    That photographer ought to be thankful the Navy's Colt 20-mm cannon on the Skyhawks was such a miserable piece of shit. Despite rigorous maintenance, they were prone to jamming at the slightest jolt. The British ships attacked by Mirages weren't as lucky - there's plenty of official RN pictures showing the manhole cover-sized holes that the 30-mm left behind.

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    Say what you want about the comparative merits of this weapons system over that one, code bugs and whatnot.
    The fact remains that those Argentinian pilots must have needed wheelbarrows to carry their brass balls around.

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    ^^^ What he said.

    The poms might've not liked guns at the time , we did though.
    This would've removed said brass balls ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indianatheart View Post
    An insanely daring (or insane) attack against the HMS Broadsword, where two A-4 Skyhawks made a shockingly low run during the Falklands war. Read more here

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    here you can see an impressive attack too with the Skyhawks during the Falklands at 0:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0FfI...eature=related
    Last edited by hogdriver; 05-31-2012 at 10:44 AM.

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    About the attack



    Rest of parts are there only..

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    With a slow japanese Val, you probably could. With a fast jet, it would be a bit more difficult. Those argentinian pilots were quite good. A good thing their bombs often failed to explode because they were dropped from too low an altitude to arm, if i understand it correctly.
    Indeed. Had their armorers been able to arm their bombs properly(not sure if it was training or lack of equipment) it might have been enough change the outcome of the conflict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleifuss View Post
    ^^^ What he said.

    The poms might've not liked guns at the time , we did though.
    This would've removed said brass balls ....
    What is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbs View Post
    That photographer ought to be thankful the Navy's Colt 20-mm cannon on the Skyhawks was such a miserable piece of shit. Despite rigorous maintenance, they were prone to jamming at the slightest jolt. The British ships attacked by Mirages weren't as lucky - there's plenty of official RN pictures showing the manhole cover-sized holes that the 30-mm left behind.
    http://www.davesnavy.co.uk/falklands.html

    Those are some big holes, luckily they seem to have done little to no actual damage.

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