Reply With QuotePretty ridiculous in most aspects, but the author was spot on in one point: the EU is massively overreached.
EU could go down Yugoslavia road
An article in Washington Post compares how EU is not all that different from Yugoslavia. Both were meant to prevent war from ever happening again, both relied on debt for economic growth, both were confederations of people who don't really want to be or even belong together. When the bills came knocking, nationalism started to rise in both cases. We know how it ended for Yugoslavia.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...TxU_story.html
Pretty ridiculous in most aspects, but the author was spot on in one point: the EU is massively overreached.
Underlined the most typical misconceptions about Yu and EU.Originally Posted by Hoverhind
Oh and this GEM:
Someone missed the Russian Federation. But it is OK, American funnel view AKA cherrypicking is OK.It is not merely a financial or economic one. The deeper question is how — or whether — any multinational confederation can survive in the land mass between the Urals and the Atlantic, long after the world war that originally justified it and the Cold War that helped perpetuate it. How is the E.U. to escape the fate of every previous empire and confederation in European history?
Ludicris, if the EU does break up France isnt going to war to keep Germany in. No one will go to war over it. No reason too.
... What an overexageration... The EU could break, but I don't see war. Civil unrest in each country, sure, certainly ! Greece is already in that. But Comparing the EU to Yugoslavia...?
The EU is not a federation or a confederation, even the word "Union" is too much ! It's a political construction aimed at keeping Europe into the First World and enhancing cooperation.both were confederations of people who don't really want to be or even belong together. When the bills came knocking, nationalism started to rise in both cases. We know how it ended for Yugoslavia.
Please Yugoslavia under Tito was steady because any dissent was repressed. Like, people being almost forced to live together. I don't see the same pressure in the EU. I can still insult Bruxelles without a trip to an isolated island with a labour camp.
And how is someone like this is allowed to write for major newspaper?
The article does conclude that a surviving EU will become more centralized and offer less freedoms.
Oppression has been refined since Yugoslav times. Rampant political correctness, mass media and peer pressure is used in Europe instead of UDBA and labor camps. The wonderfully liberal nations allow for all opinions. Except those that contradict their views. You are not allowed to be against, say, gay marriages and pride parades, certain religions, gypsies etc. If you are, you are immediately branded a backward bigot.
Sorry, but being forced to live alongside gypsies, as were cases recently in Croatia and Serbia, without anyone asking you and being branded in national media as bigotted, bloodthirsty nationalist when you object is no better than UDBA taking you for a chat because you told a joke about Serbs or "brotherhood and unity", just more refined.
And as another thread here illustrates, even calling a fat guy what he is is now considered a hate crime in UK, and it's a matter of time before the rest of EU adopts this "valiant step in the battle against bigots and haters".
You need to learn to read, if you think calling someone fat is illegal in the UK.
I'm not the EU's biggest fan by any measure, but you're writing utter bollocks.
Centralization =/= lack of freedom
As for PC, it is established only in few countries. Not in mine and I am not starting to auto-censor myself in others. If you can stand behind what you think and support it by strong arguments and facts, you wonīt look like an idiot. If you canīt, than you will and you should.
Are you serious? The problem for being against gay prides or love parades or same *** marriages is that you cannot justify it by ANY stretch logically.
As for the rest...I think you had it too easy on the other side of the border. That is why you **** around the leeway that you have in the EU.
Now calling someone fatty in the UK...well I guess that the UK being eurosceptic by a margin should at least keep the EU out of this non-sense. I have still to find this rampant political correctness with Nations lobbing names at the nutshell that the EU is because they ****ed up the overall planning, because the issues are thought top down, because the peacetime construction of the EU is mainly legal in essence.
Overall, the claim that the EU is comparable in any sense to the FSRY, is something out of a nightmare. But I mean that is to be expected from an Opinion piece in a Paper that pushes European desintegration since pretty much 15 years.
Truly exagerated (for the moment) but point very interresting things : most of the european nations rediscover patriotism and the next step is nationalism if the governments don't respond to their fears : crumbling welfare states, growing immigration, failed integration, and last but not least technocratic/bureaucratic and not so democratic European Union... All are big argument to far-right (or at least national-right) and far-left parties. The only common cultural ground in Europe was the judeo-christian background, a notion that nearly all european deputies rejected in the fundamental texts!!!
How dare you sir! It's probably illegal to write such incendiary filth!
Judeo-what?
Indeed. Pretty sure we will be going to war about being allowed to call Brits fatties.
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