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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    Entitlements need to be slashed. The military isn't an entitlement it's a necessity. So sorry.
    Your entitlements are not enough. At least as long as you don't want to compete with Somalia when it comes on social securtiy.
    Even if you cut 1.4 trillion out of the yearly spending orgy, you will open another holes.
    And having 11 carrier groups isn't a necessity - it's 20 years of lobbyism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackie View Post
    Your entitlements are not enough. At least as long as you don't want to compete with Somalia when it comes on social securtiy.
    Even if you cut 1.4 trillion out of the yearly spending orgy, you will open another holes.
    And having 11 carrier groups isn't a necessity - it's 20 years of lobbyism.
    Spoken like a true European.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    Spoken like a true European.
    For sure, wingnut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Reader View Post
    But why for example build this huge pipeline to the south.. and not just a refinery up in the north which also would create more jobs I guess?
    Several reasons.

    First, we have existing refineries in the Gulf region that are already set up to refine the extremely 'sour' (high sulfur content) crude that comes from the oil tar sands fields. If we start using them for Canadian oil tar sands crude, we can then tell Chavez and friends to go pound sand and find somewhere else to refine his sour crude from Venezuelan fields. The Chinese already have a deal in place to take over refining Venezuelan crude, which would then leave those special refineries for sour crude in the Gulf idle and their workers unemployed. By replacing Venezuelan crude with Canadian oil tar sands crude in Gulf refineries, we are protecting American jobs and improving economic ties with our neighbor and close friend, Canada.

    Second, envirofascists have made it nearly impossible to build new refineries in America by filing endless strings of lawsuits and using their Dem congressional tools to pass asshatted uberextreme enviro regs.

    Third, as production of oil tar sands crude ramps up, we would have to build a whole bunch of refineries up north to handle the output. To build a whole bunch of new refineries when we already have the capacity down south would be silly.

    Fourth; and this is the big one; once the crude is refined, you need a distribution network of gasoline & diesel pipelines and tanker ships to get the refined products to customers. No such network exists up in the Dakotas or Alberta, but an extensive distribution network exists in the Gulf. Building a whole new network up north would be cost-prohibitive, and stupid when we already have that down south.

    Fifth, the Canadians are intent on diversifying their customer base instead of selling 100% of their oil to a single customer (us). Getting the oil to the Gulf coast lets them sell some of it internationally. Right now, we have a quota in place that allows us to buy only a certain amount of their oil. This was another wonderful thing pushed through Congress by envirofascists who wanted to stop us from using that 'dirty' oil tar sands crude. Of course, like so many sh1t-for-brains envirofascist 'solutions', it only makes the problem worse. The oil not sold locally to us must instead be shipped elsewhere, burning horrific amounts of diesel in the engines of supertankers and further polluting our air. Nice going, eco-geniuses! It is cr@p like this that compels the Canadians to wisely retain the option to export internationally, as we could pass more idiotic regulations at any moment that would limit or prevent the sale of oil tar sands crude to U.S. refineries, leaving the Canadians well and thoroughly screwed.

    Sixth, the Canadians, thanks to Zero and his stopping the Keystone XL project, have chosen to build a pipeline west to the Pacific coast to an export terminal in British Columbia. That means more oil going to China and less oil going to us. It also means more refinery jobs in China, and fewer here. It also means we have to import more oil from distant and potentially hostile nations, helping to fund those regimes and keep them in power, and further enabling their support of terrorism and their quest for WMDs. And Canada will be exporting their oil to Asia while we will be importing more from all over the world, which means as I already pointed out a hell of a lot more supertanker traffic, air pollution and potential oil spills. Getting the Keystone XL project on track and built ASAP means less of all of these evils.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wotsnext View Post
    If Romney gets in he'll have it sorted out in no time, right?
    Ha.

    The wont be any cuts (maybe to tax), and more QE on the way.

    The US economy is like a drug addict, smaller does of drugs (QE) won't have a effect, you need to keep on upping the dose to get a fix.

    Except that fix never works, just ask Japan.

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