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    Default Soviet legacy for The Prometheus.

    http://www.shadowlocked.com/20120330...rometheus.html

    In 1992, Robert Skotak (special effects director of Terminator and Aliens) specifically sought out Paul Klushantsev in St. Petersburg. Klushantsev gave Skotak descriptions, photos and drawings that illustrated dozens of his movie stunt technology. Skotak used some of Klushantxev's stunt techniques for the filming of the movie Titanic. In the photo below, you can compare costumes from Prometheus to those from Planet of the Storms. There's little doubt that [Noomi] Rapace and company are sent to conquer space in modernized Soviet spacesuits
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    It appears that the design of the Prometheus spacesuits is not original but based on spacesuits from the USSR developed in the early 1960's. Spacesuits of a similar design were first shown in the 1961 Soviet science fiction film, Planet of the Storms directed by Paul Klushantsev...It was purchased by the American studio, Roger Corman Productions...Corman re-edited the movie thus cutting out a large number of scenes. In 1965, Corman released the revised version under the title, Voyage to the Prehistoric Planet...
    Okay, before we all acknowledge that Ridley Scott and his Prometheus art department are not only channelling the original Alien (1979) suits created by John Mollo (derived from the conceptual work of the late Moebius), but also a Forbidden Planet-style 1950s vibe, and that the etymology of 'B'-movie SF design is so complicated as to be considered a 'melting pot' from which elements of both the original Alien story and its design are hard to extricate...read on a little.
    It's not just the space-suits either, as we'll see shortly. The 'Russian connection' seems to be an unusually strong strand in the DNA of the Alien franchise...and arguably that of Prometheus. The original Russian post continues...



    And now the resemblance that made me smile:



    Going beyond space-suits, Lethal_Mutation also provides another striking visual comparison between Soviet hardware (real, this time) and that of Prometheus, in the form of the GAZ-4905 - otherwise known as the Soviet BTR-70 troop transport, developed in the late 1960s and entering active service in the Soviet military in 1972.
    In 1968, Corman released the film, Voyage to the Planet of Prehistoric Women, which was essentially a second reedited version of Journey to the Prehistoric Planet.

    Planet of the Storms ​ ​director, Paul Klushantsev may not be recognizable to the (Russian) general public, but among film critics, he's known as the founder of Russian science fiction film shorts. He is also fairly well known in the west. For example, both Kubrick and Spielberg were influenced by his work. During his visit to the USSR during perestroika, George Lucas called Klushantsev, "the godfather of Star Wars".
    Couldn't find the info in English, but apparently (or so Russian netz says), while making The Alien and Prometheus, Scott also used many of the visual effects and stunts used by Pavel Klushantsev in his works.

    OT/PS: the world of Pandora from The Avatar drags its roots from SU science fiction.

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    Cool mix for Planet of the Storms
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBDDOHppxEA

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    The bubble helmets could have come from Planeta Bur, but the idea of a skintight (DAT Charlize Theron ass) pressure suit was more likely inspired by this: http://www.astronautix.com/craft/spaysuit.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by artjomh View Post
    The bubble helmets could have come from Planeta Bur, but the idea of a skintight (DAT Charlize Theron ass) pressure suit was more likely inspired by this: http://www.astronautix.com/craft/spaysuit.htm
    quite possible, but I just don't get how that great ass will be kept in proper temperature in that kind of suit )

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    Ok, just start watching Soviet SF "Strom Planet"

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    I'm in love:


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    Just been to see Prometheus - not bad! Watching the original ALIEN movie now in HD. IMHO the 1979 original still the best, although the new movie takes a lot of cues from the original, including the sets.

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    I like the idea of Soviet Style equipment in space. Whenever I think about future space exploration, I picture highly utilitarian simple-looking equipment that has been manufactured in orbit, or on manufacturing plants on asteroids or moons that use resources found on the celestial bodies. I have always felt that Eastern designs have followed the rugged utilitarian look in heavy industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasi View Post


    And now the resemblance that made me smile:







    Couldn't find the info in English, but apparently (or so Russian netz says), while making The Alien and Prometheus, Scott also used many of the visual effects and stunts used by Pavel Klushantsev in his works.

    OT/PS: the world of Pandora from The Avatar drags its roots from SU science fiction.
    Not to nitpick but thats a BTR-4 by the looks not BTR-70

    That said interesting all the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasi View Post
    I'm in love:

    SPOILER WARNING : hilarious death scene.....posssibly...... u decide..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fox 65 View Post
    SPOILER WARNING : hilarious death scene.....posssibly...... u decide..............
    I'll KILL YOU!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbody View Post
    I'll KILL YOU!
    oops...like I say....POSSIBLY!!!

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    BTW that BTR-70 lookalike has scissor type doors in the drivers compartment. The side doors open like a BTR (gull-wing). It looks very cool in the movie , although it never has to travel offroad or in anything other than a straight line.

    I don't give a 5hit when or where those suits were designed - ALL the girls in the movie look HOT in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fox 65 View Post
    hilarious death scene
    The whole movie is unintentionally hilarious. I pity people who spent more than me( 5$ in ru equivalent) and expected a great sci-fi movie.

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    Must eliminate you both now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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