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    They know the law, abide by it or go back to whatever ****hole you came from.

    And sadly this is not the first time something like this happened.

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    So as Belgium politics are so divided and you lot can't seem to find consensus between different factions, we will soon see a rise of the Emirate of Belgiumstan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pocoloco View Post
    So as Belgium politics are so divided and you lot can't seem to find consensus between different factions, we will soon see a rise of the Emirate of Belgiumstan?
    This is a question of demography, wait a few decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe View Post
    Aaah the Muck "Muslims are Evil" Special...at some point it was bound to happen.

    While the unrest was true, and that it was stirred by the Moronic bunch called Shariah4Belgistan, the police who acted on the spot were in a political ride as well.

    The law that applies (563bis) does not call for a detention. The matter is simply taken into account by handing a Notice of Infraction (Avis de Constatation). Ordering the lady to shed out the ninja outfit has to take into account what she is wearing under the clad.

    In many cases ordering to take out the Burqa forces the person to commit another infraction - be that exhibitionism or simply outrage aux bonnes moeurs (as they wear little underneath the Ninja suit). The law is really badly thought as we had already such a law (Interdiction of means of concealment in public (except for Carnival-Mardi Gras).
    It Its really simple, If they want to wear a full Burqa, they have to be ready to comply with the law. In many cases ordering to take out the Burqa forces the person to commit another infraction, by herself, not by the LEO.

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    Here is a video describing the incident with english subtitles that someone has posted on youtube.


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    Incidents like these really give stuff to jerk off for both extreme ends of the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pocoloco View Post
    So as Belgium politics are so divided and you lot can't seem to find consensus between different factions, we will soon see a rise of the Emirate of Belgiumstan?
    Eh, no. Though things like this happen, they are sporadic, limited to certain neighborhoods in Brussels and Antwerp, and tend to involve the same retards over and over again.

    Not that this isn't a serious problem, and shouldn't be dealt with harshly. Part of the problem in this case is that the major of St Jans Molenbeek, Phillipe Moureaux, is a grade A fvckwad, who should have been removed from his office and confined to a retirement home years ago. He's in charge of one of the most difficult, crime ridden towns in Belgium but burries his head in the sand and refuses to to admit that there's anything to worry about in his town.

    Another more major problem is how capitally fvcked up our justice system is, and the extreme length your criminal record has to be before you ever see the inside of a jail cell. Prison sentences under three years aren't even carried out anymore. So the oxygen sucking waste of molecules, Fouad Belkacem, who leads the collection of mentally disabled apes known as Sharia4Belgium, who was earlier this year convicted to a year in prison, is still free to roam the streets and stir up ****. And of course the woman who assaulted the police officers when she refused to obey the law by revealing her face, is already free and back on the streets. But hey, all she did is broke a cop's nose and two teeth. No biggie.

    I don't have to tell you how incredibly frustrating and demotivating this situation is for the police officers in our country. As soon as we use any modicum of force to detain someone, everyone is up in arms and we get to appear in front of a parliamentary commission or internal affairs on charges of police brutality. But civilians are free to insult, attack and harass the police secure in the knowledge that they're likely to never spend a day in jail for it. How could this not lead to lawlessness? If everyone of the people arrested in this recent riot got to spend a few months behind bars, and were assured that the same thing would happen next time they puled sh!t like this, the situation would be resolved right quick.

    /rant.
    Last edited by TheBelgian; 06-03-2012 at 08:11 AM.

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    Thanks Belgian for the rant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hulaku View Post
    Do people in the West realise that Muslims ask for special considerations when they are in a minority ?

    Why dont other non-Muslim immigrant minorities have the same problem ?
    Let's say the Muslim community is, for a great part of it, lead by its religious traditions. Or at least they follow the traditions that suit them best. For instance the do Ramadan, muslim women (at least those following the Quran) wear veils/burkas/niqabs/..., they pray when they have to, they don't eat pork and demand hallal food, and so on.

    This religion has a very strong influence on the way of life of these people, thus creating constraint and asking for special considerations from the society they live in. The muslim way of life is, I guess you know that, very different from the western way of life and, as a matter of fact, they want us to accept their differences without them accepting ours. They, not a of them though, want us to adapt to them, but not the contrary.

    Other minorities don't have this kind of issues since religion is not so intrusive.

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    So they are doing bit like missionary work among us heathen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hulaku View Post
    Do people in the West realise that Muslims ask for special considerations when they are in a minority ?

    Why dont other non-Muslim immigrant minorities have the same problem ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan le Fou View Post
    Let's say the Muslim community is, for a great part of it, lead by its religious traditions. Or at least they follow the traditions that suit them best. For instance the do Ramadan, muslim women (at least those following the Quran) wear veils/burkas/niqabs/..., they pray when they have to, they don't eat pork and demand hallal food, and so on.

    This religion has a very strong influence on the way of life of these people, thus creating constraint and asking for special considerations from the society they live in. The muslim way of life is, I guess you know that, very different from the western way of life and, as a matter of fact, they want us to accept their differences without them accepting ours. They, not a of them though, want us to adapt to them, but not the contrary.

    Other minorities don't have this kind of issues since religion is not so intrusive.
    Thanks for your reply. I will reference this reply for whenever my country is accused of "oppressing" its Muslim minority. (We've got around 200 million)

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    At some point it can be seen as such but they mostly refuse integration and assimilation, while continuing to get all the financial helps granted by our society.

    But this kind of a generalisation, all the muslims in France, Belgium, UK,... are not like that. Some are really willing te become part of the society, seing their self imposed communitarism-lead-seclusion is not constructive and doesn't not allow to "evolve" (since improving one's condition is, somehow, what everybody seeks).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martel View Post
    "We have no respect for your way of life, you way of thinking (...) our system, religion, values are superior to yours (...) Accept charia or leave Belgium"

    Yeah a true man of tolerance and peace, Belgium still considering if they can ban this guy or not.

    http://www.rtl.be/info/belgique/soci...haria4belgium-

    A Ninja!....sweet!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan le Fou View Post
    At some point it can be seen as such but they mostly refuse integration and assimilation, while continuing to get all the financial helps granted by our society.
    Sadly there are many useful idiots anxious to help them do just this.

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