if I understood rigth today Azarbaijan Parliament rendered resoulution that President Aliev and his family are immune from any prosecutinon regarding any crime that they commited during Alievs term as president of Azerbaijan.
Please Attila could you confirm or denie ths information? And if that is true do you still think that he is not dictator?
It is not Turkey either, and so far it seems it has a lot of years ahead of itself to grow outside of its big brother's shadowOriginally Posted by AttilaA
Where do you get your information from?!
I mean the amount of misinformation you carry about Armenia (intentional or because of ignorance, I really do not know) is just mind numbing
I could easily make a equally asinine statement that Azerbaijan only exists as a state because of British Petroleum.
Last edited by AKS; 06-13-2012 at 12:31 PM.
By all means that applies to Azerbaijan, although Armenia might find that they could use Russia's help in case of an attack by Turkey; it's the 3rd or 2nd largest army in NATO after all. For another thing, Turkey probably has enough long-range artillery and air superiority to just bomb Armenia all day long without putting any of their own soldiers in danger.
Exactly that is why Armenia has the pact with Russia and is a member of CSTO
It is not widely publicized fact, but unlike most other cases where the "guest" nation pays the host to keep a base on the host's soil, Armenia actually takes care of most of the costs associated by the Russian bases.
Which shows how much Armenians value their presence there. It is a definite reminder to Turkey to keep it cool and civil.
These guys are trying to compare the capabilities of Azerbaijan with that of Turkey, which is just mind numbingly asinine.
Sorry, who is trying to compare the capabilities of Azerbaijan with that of Turkey? So far it seems only your writing it down by yourself.
Your saying that Armenia is not South Ossetia, and in that case Azerbaijan are neither Georgia.
That Armenia alone would be able to defend itself against Azerbaijan are highly questionable. There is a big quantitative, aswell as a technological difference. You are also forgetting the fact that capabilities of Azerbaijan grows very fast, unlike, let's say, Armenia...Just few months ago Azerbaijan signed a $1.6 billion deal with Israeli IAI. There are negotiations on procurement of third generation MBT's etc...So Armenia has no prospects of even comparing itself.
And how this fact could be even disputed is beyond me, there can be no slightest comparision in financial capabilities of the two countries. And that is what shapes the capabilities of military.
It is also a known fact that Russia non-directly and even directly threatens Azerbaijan via CSTO, and that this is a big hope of Armenian leadership and a source of "courage" for them.
Nikolay Bordyuzha's comments last month;
http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/108359/
Last edited by AttilaA; 06-14-2012 at 12:38 AM.
Abkhasians are muslims??? Well, I haven't seen any mosque there. But seen ancient orthodox churches that are still active (Pitsunda, New Afon).
Russia doesn't threaten Azerbaijan. It's an ex-Soviet country and one that has a good attitude to Russia and particularly the Russian language/culture; no reason to upset or threaten them. There is the CSTO of course, which means that any attack on Armenia will lead Russia to declare war. But that's just standard practise, for a defensive alliance.
And your opinion that Azerbaijan will 'conquer' Armenia is simply laughable. You know, I'm not even sure Russia will have an easy time of it were it to try. And here you go and say that the military is all about finance and equipment, and that Azerbaijan will have no problem knocking Armenia out. Yeah, sure bro. I'll say it again - if war was all about who had the bigger guns; then the wars in Chechnya wouldn't have lasted as long as they did.
Last edited by Flamming_Python; 06-14-2012 at 01:21 AM.
What I mean is that you extremely over exaggerate Azeri capability. Your above post is a perfect example of that.
Armenia has been defending herself against Azerbaijan pretty well in the last 20 years, continues to do so, and will do in the future.
You talk the talk of a much more capable country yet history has shown Azerbaijan is not that country.
Multiple members here tried to explain to you that shiny toys in ample quantities do not guarantee you a victory. It was proven in the NK conflict, it was proven in many other conflicts. Of course you seem to be a propaganda bot with a repeating copy/paste pattern.
As another member pointed out. If Azeris knew they can take on NK or Armenia they would have done that. But unlike you, internet armchair warrior/ propaganda bot, they actually are knowledgeable enough to not try anything funny.
Did you even read the last article before you posted, or did you just read that one sentence that suited you?
I am not even going to even bother trying to explain to you the whole content of the article. It is pointless.
Anyways there is not much more to add here.
Please go ahead and paste more articles about Azeri spending spree, or whatever else the Azeri propaganda machine requires of you
They have a large Orthodox minority, but the majority are Muslims. Why do you think Basayev and co. went and fought on their side?
Somehow it becomes necessary to mention it because you (not only you personally) seem to forget about some facts.
That is not the first such statement from CSTO. Even Armenian defence ministry once threatend Azerbaijan with CSTO. And CSTO is Russia. I have seen enough evidence for that Armenian leadership relies on factor of Russian backing.
Believe me or not, but I've never seen there either any large Muslim community there or any mosque. And Basaev went there not because they are Muslims. He and other volunteers from Northern Caucasus went there with the help of our authorities. BTW, there were plenty of Cossacks from Russia and Transnistria. Would they go there to help Muslims?
Yes they are Muslim , just some of them are orthodox christians. They prefer build hotels then mosques.
Hm... I go there to visit my relatives rather regularly, maybe something has changed since 2008? At that time I've seen no evidence of locals being muslims in every town or village I had been in. None of my friends or relatives' friends are Muslims, all they are either atheists or christians.
Well Nagorny-Karabakh is legally Azeri territory. And Azerbaijan is not part of the CSTO. What grounds therefore would the CSTO have for defending Nagorny-Karabakh? Of course if the war starts to involve Armenia and Azerbaijan in open conflict and conducting offensives on each others' lands, as it probably will, then the CSTO might have cause to intervene.
Anyway, I think that Russia will not be keen to send its troops into the hostilities; only if Turkey threatens the Armenians really. With the Azeris, we're not 'brothers' as such, but we are good neighbours, and Russia would probably want it to stay that way.
Even if Aliyev proves to be an aggressive nut, it would be a far more sensible option to isolate and pressure him internationally together with (hopefully) the US and France. You are grossly underestimating the Armenians too. They are a proud people, and very heavily entrenched with the equipment that they do have, in very mountainous terrain. There are numerous Armenian communities in the world, from America to France to Russia, and all of them will support their nation unanimously, send volunteers, money, etc... We're not talking Iraq or Libya here. More like Israel or something, except with far more defensible terrain.
We shall see that theory put to a test very soon
Russia will break you in half, it might take them a bit longer than 5 days, but the result will be the same. (After all our forces did not really fight the Russians, our coward of a leadership withdrew our army as soon as they found out that Russia had engaged.)
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