Russian MPs back huge fines for protest violations

[Mousepad]

We completely suck at PR, we should fukken hire a good PR group, those guys who made a "good guy" out of mini Hitler - Saakashvili.

[tea drinker]

Why is this news?

You do realise that we in the West have some of the most draconian laws in place when it comes to holding protests right?

Try to protest march on Capital Hill/White House, Australian Parliament House, Westminster, Greek Parliament ect. Out comes the riot police no questions asked and skulls cracked..................if you don't have a permit. And even if you do we will have mounted police breaking up the protesters into smaller groups and still cracking skulls.

When we do it - it's ok. When they do it - it's not. Ask the euro's if they want to fvck with French or German riot police......

[LineDoggie]

I guess you don't read things you post. That has nothing to do with not allowing protests. It's basically saying don't disrupt Congress while it's in session and don't disrupted property where the Secret Service is guarding someone.

HOW DARE YOU question the Koto he is all knowing. If he says Jump you must gladly say How high?

Not comparing taking over a restricted building and committing acts of Violence upon those who work inside, to protest in the street as equal? Unforgivable on your part, you cro magnon

[KoTeMoRe]

HOW DARE YOU question the Koto he is all knowing. If he says Jump you must gladly say How high?

Not comparing taking over a restricted building and committing acts of Violence upon those who work inside, to protest in the street as equal? Unforgivable on your part, you cro magnon

I will put this again here:

‘(1) the term ‘restricted buildings or grounds’ means any posted, cordoned off, or otherwise restricted area—
‘‘(A) of the White House or its grounds, or the Vice
President’s official residence or its grounds;
‘‘(B) of a building or grounds where the President or
other person protected by the Secret Service is or will
be temporarily visiting; or
‘‘(C) of a building or grounds so restricted in conjunction with an event designated as a special event of national
significance; and

The definition is THAT broad.

[LineDoggie]

When we do it - it's ok. When they do it - it's not. Ask the euro's if they want to fvck with French or German riot police......

There is a difference between protest and riot obviously lost on you.

RIOT



Not a Riot




again

RIOT










Not a Riot




Subtle difference I know but you can maybe see a difference?

[armored_diplomacy]

Unless this bill has some hidden provisions, most of what they´re trying to do sounds quite reasonable IMO.

Over here they tried to jump to the other side: doing nothing, banning nothing, allowing everything. The consequences of that are terrible, and goes from total lost of control over public areas to LEO forced to get there unarmed.

[KoTeMoRe]

It is not about riots...it is about unlawful protests...which in most cases results in public unrest.

[LineDoggie]

I will put this again here:



The definition is THAT broad.

Forget something?

‘‘(4) knowingly engages in any act ofphysical violence

against any person or property in any restricted building orgrounds;or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be punished as providedin subsection (b).

[KoTeMoRe]

Forget something?

‘‘(4) knowingly engages in any act ofphysical violence

against any person or property in any restricted building orgrounds;or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be punished as providedin subsection (b).

Aaah the famous LD double edged self selcted cornershot reading.

‘‘§ 1752. Restricted building or grounds
‘‘(a) Whoever—
‘‘(1) knowingly enters or remains in any restricted building
or grounds without lawful authority to do so;
‘‘(2) knowingly, and with intent to impede or disrupt the
orderly conduct of Government business or official functions,
engages in disorderly or disruptive conduct in, or within such
proximity to, any restricted building or grounds when, or so
that, such conduct, in fact, impedes or disrupts the orderly
conduct of Government business or official functions;
‘‘(3) knowingly, and with the intent to impede or disrupt
the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions,
obstructs or impedes ingress or egress to or from any restricted
building or grounds; or
‘‘(4) knowingly engages in any act of physical violence
against any person or property in any restricted building or
grounds;
or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be punished as provided
in subsection (b).

I guess you forgot (1), (2) and (3).

[LineDoggie]

Aaah the famous LD double edged self selcted cornershot reading.


I guess you forgot (1), (2) and (3).

Not at all. unlike you I can see the difference between physical violence while take over of a government building, and a peaceful protest. Pathetic attempt to equivocate on your part.

[mathyou8]

Still too weak. I demand capital punishment. Yep

[KoTeMoRe]

Not really...this is non violent occupation...this is targeted by HR 347.

[tea drinker]

Subtle difference I know but you can maybe see a difference?

thanks for the lulz, but you know they use riot police to dispel protests, strikes etc?
here's one, peaceful protest, look at the bloodied faces at the end of it
http://www.euronews.com/nocomment/20...ke-protesters/

[Sashko]

Why? People deserve the governement they have, globally. Russians get what they deserve, too. If Russians are content with the current regime, that is what they get. It is nobody else's business as long as it doesn't cause problems abroads.

You really believe this crap? That your average John Q has any say in decision making processes conducted by the powerful elites?

All we get to choose is whether crook A or crook B gets the power. Western countries have better checks and balances in place due to not having to go through 3 completely radical political and social system changes in the span of just 100 years. Those checks and balances took centuries of relative stability to take hold and entrench and still there is tons of well camoflaged corruption at all levels.

[LineDoggie]

thanks for the lulz, but you know they use riot police to dispel protests, strikes etc?
here's one, peaceful protest, look at the bloodied faces at the end of it
http://www.euronews.com/nocomment/20...ke-protesters/

Didnt see cops beating on anyone and neither did you. Could have just as easily got the injuries running into branches trying to evade. Poor example. Since when is throwing rocks peaceful?

http://news.yahoo.com/german-police-...162622749.html

since when is sabotaging railroad tracks peaceful?