Reply With QuoteHas anyone ever figured out how strategic bombers fit into Russian doctrine for nuclear warfighting? (outside of maritime strike role delivering tac nukes to US carrier battle groups).
Russian PAK-DA bomber in doubt, says minister
Russia probably does not need the PAK-DA long-range manned bomber destined to replace the Tupolev Tu-160 and Tu-95 aircraft in service, according to deputy prime minister Dmitry Rogozin.
Rogozin, who has special responsibilities for the military-industrial complex, told Russia's Izvestia that long-range aviation will not be revived in the "traditional sense" as part of the nation's strategic nuclear strike force.
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...nister-372687/
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Has anyone ever figured out how strategic bombers fit into Russian doctrine for nuclear warfighting? (outside of maritime strike role delivering tac nukes to US carrier battle groups).
think his message is quite clear and literal: Russia does not need a long-range nuclear bomber in the traditional sense (leveling US cities and military objects like carrier fleets or bases), but.. well I could draw you several tens of possible scenarios, where RuAF might use a PAKDA project. with nukes or without.
Has Russia ever even dropped a bomb on another continent?
Hmm? Well all her nuke testing was conducted in the territory of the Soviet Union(Semipalatinisk, Novaya Zemlya to name the infamous tests) her delivery means can very well reach other continents. But she has yet the need to drop a nuclear weapon in anger.Originally Posted by C.Puffs
Some Background on the PAKDA in 2008 and speculative images.
The Russian Air Force PAK DA is a fifth-generation strategic bomber intended as the replacement of aging Tu-95MS, T-22M3 and Tu-160. The PAK DA is being developed by Kazan Aircraft Production Association of Russia. The PAK DA stands for Perspektivnyi Aviatsionnyi Kompleks Dalney Aviatsyi which means “long-range future aviation complex” for Strategic Air Forces.
The PAK DA is going to be heavily based on Russia’s current supersonic bomber Tupolev Tu-160 and is expected to have it’s maiden flight by 2015. However it was also speculated that the PAK DA would be similar to the stealthy design of the America B-2 Spirit bomber.
Currently, the Russian airforce has Tu-95 and Tu-160 strategic bombers, as well as long range Tu-22 bombers. They can carry bombs and cruise missiles. The aircrafts of these type are currently undergoing modernization. There have also been reports stating that this new bomber will have stealth characteristics.
The Russian Air Force has made tactical and technical requirements for new generation strategic bombers, as reported by Interfax. This strategic bomber would be used in both conventional and nuclear conflicts using high-precision weapons. According to Russian Air Force commander Aleksandr Zelin, Work on the new bomber has already begun. “The requirements are formulated, and many firms are now implementing plans” – said Zelin.
Russian Major Gen. Anatoly Zhikharev has stated that the new bomber will replace both the turboprop-powered Tupolev Tu-95 and the supersonic Tupolev Tu-160. The PAK DA concept relies on the ability to fly at stratospheric altitudes (50,000 meters) with stealth features to avoid enemy air defenses.
modern Russia? no
but it will, if of course "the light of democracy" will keep giving us such great examples
we learn pretty fast, you know?
Dude, Don't even.
all I am pointing to is that there is such a possible scenario, which might arise in the future, where Russia might bomb some third world country, which consistently supports terrorists (financially or however else).
I don't know how a scenario like that would fit in current doctrine.
http://cns.miis.edu/stories/100205_russian_nuclear_doctrine.htm
that is so two years ago, but here is a reminder: http://segodnya.novostimira.com/n_2193860.html, if you could take his words seriously. I do.
and I second that right completely. the right to use atomic weapons to assure the Russia's security and indivisibility..
Blackjacks and (maybe) Bears functioning as launch platforms for nuke-tipped cruise missiles. Basically the same as our Bomber's strategic roles.
Like Finland?As the recent Makarov thread showed, some of you might be ready to bomb us to the Kingdom come, and we are just your next door neighbours. Doesn't make a sense to nuke a country into non-existence that you invade in the first place.
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You are a funny man.
Anyway, this makes a lot of sense. Why have such an over-expensive long range bomber these days anyway? Russia needs a bomber like Stasi said, but nothing like Tu-160. Maybe a bomber variant of PAK FA, something similar to Su-34 but using even more up to date avionics, countermeasures, EW systems and stealth features.
no one is invading or bombing our beloved Finns ))Like Finland?
stop pouring the napalm on my words, but Makarov is just showing the west the point where it would be wise to stop its aggressive expansion and start a dialogue, which could lead to our mutual benefit.
out of everyone else, Finns must understand better that initially Russia carries no threat to its neighbors.
what do you mean, why? because the Americans have those. its is a war of possibilities, while Putin and Obama, or whoever, drink their tea together and look all diplomatic.
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