Mechanical and Aerospace Engineers

[T3ngu]

whats starting salary for an engineer?

Here $40k at a very low paying job, expected $50k minimum if not more. Across the board. As for engineering being moved to india, at least here we have certified practising requirements, which means you can't transpose it across easily.

And as for "switching" engineering specialities, not many do it here. Maybe go for post grad to refine their skills.

[IconOfEvi]

Roebuck, disregard CrYsIs's comment, you do not need an MBA or an MS here

Mech engineers are in extreme demand, and will be moreso.

One of my best friends had a $35k-$40k job while IN SCHOOL, and when he became an official engineer, got $45k-$50k. Within a year moved jobs, to like a 60k one. In short, go for it.

Im telling you, companies are canvassing the engineering schools badly, they need them.

Its different in India, so he wouldn't know. Why they aren't being imported in huge numbers from the PRC and India is because, frankly, it just costs more in the end. Their engineers are terrible, from what industry sources I've been in hearsay with. Always making huge **** ups, not remotely on time, substandard work, and NO CREATIVITY at all, especially from the PRC ones. Again, not to get into depth about it for many reasons, but suffice to say its partly cultural. So much emphasis in these countries is given to rote learning and memorization that they make terrible engineers, and esp mechanical ones, because they don't know how to think for themselves or to engineer solutions. Its many factors again, but companies even in my piss ass broke town are cutting back on their engineers because while cheap, the costs of doing buisness in the end is just too much due to lost time and money, either waiting for results, or having to correct results.

If you are even only remotely competent at school here, they will WANT YOU. Gogogogogogogo!

[T3ngu]

Roebuck, disregard CrYsIs's comment, you do not need an MBA or an MS here

Mech engineers are in extreme demand, and will be moreso.

Here the majority of engieners only have the B Eng degree. No post grad.

I worked with an indian engineer, getting a job in india is waiting your turn, or was for him. Many articles of late about the lack of comprehensiveness of indian degrees in any case.

As I said before, starting government graduate wage here is $55k plus.

[CrYsIs]

Here the majority of engieners only have the B Eng degree. No post grad.

I worked with an indian engineer, getting a job in india is waiting your turn, or was for him. Many articles of late about the lack of comprehensiveness of indian degrees in any case.

As I said before, starting government graduate wage here is $55k plus.

in india the starting salary for a BE/BS or B.Tech engineer is something around 450-550 $ a month and after 1-2 years of job it increases to 1000-1200 $ per month.But if you have an MBA degree then you would be earning around 2000 $ pm.My 28 year old cousin who works for GE earns around 2800 $ pm.


In india core engineering jobs are in shortage as i said before because of india's low manufacturing, industrialization & export capabilities.India has achieved some success in Automobile and shipbuilding industries but the overall picture of manufacturing in India is quite disappointing.95% of engineering jobs in india are related to IT & software.

Also a thing to note that in india there are two types of engineers 1) diploma engineers & 2) degree engineers .The diploma engineers are like laborers with an engineering degree where as degree engineers are in the administration and management post.I am a degree engineer.Diploma engineers make up about 80% of engineers in india.

[T3ngu]

in india the starting salary for a BE/BS or B.Tech engineer is something around 450-550 $ a month and after 1-2 years of job it increases to 1000-1200 $ per month.But if you have an MBA degree then you would be earning around 2000 $ pm.My 28 year old cousin who works for GE earns around 2800 $ pm.


In india core engineering jobs are in shortage as i said before because of india's low manufacturing, industrialization & export capabilities.India has achieved some success in Automobile and shipbuilding industries but the overall picture of manufacturing in India is quite disappointing.95% of engineering jobs in india are related to IT & software.

Also a thing to note that in india there are two types of engineers 1) diploma engineers & 2) degree engineers .The diploma engineers are like laborers with an engineering degree where as degree engineers are in the administration and management post.I am a degree engineer.Diploma engineers make up about 80% of engineers in india.

Thanks. Didn't know that.

[Grax]

A friend finished his master in eng. here. Starts with $66000, unlimited. Automotive sector.

In my wet dreams probably.
Standard salaries are 40000€ -> that means 2000€ netto a year welcome to germany!

[Daedalus]

I got a bit more than 40k€ as a starting salary in Germany but that was with a PH.D. and Germans do valorize PH.D's. I am getting much more now. Taxes are enormous but less than in Belgium. There they proposed me 32k lol. With shitty secondary schools for my future kids to boot.

Missus and i moved to Germany because she found there a job nearly immediatly after searching. she's a chemical engineer with no PH.D. She got around 40k without trouble.

If that wasn't for the future kids, i'd move to Australia.

[Mackie]

I got a bit more than 40k€ as a starting salary in Germany but that was with a PH.D. and Germans do valorize PH.D's. I am getting much more now. Taxes are enormous but less than in Belgium. There they proposed me 32k lol. With shitty secondary schools for my future kids to boot.

Missus and i moved to Germany because she found there a job nearly immediatly after searching. she's a chemical engineer with no PH.D. She got around 40k without trouble.

If that wasn't for the future kids, i'd move to Australia.

Long ago? 40k for a Phd isn't that good

[Daedalus]

Not very long ago. Yes, i realized it wasn't much and asked for a huge raise afterwards. I got it without trouble.

My soon-to-be-wife and i suddenly left Belgium when we agreed we were going to make children together and the conditions in Belgium were awful for people like us. So we started to look for jobs in France because they have some excellent schools there. Engineering salaries ar lower there and only the alumni from the very best schools get 40K. Plus, i knew a lot of Belgian and French researchers. They struggled a lot. In Belgium, a PH.D. is barely valorised and the recuiters are morons. They are more preoccuped by your personality than by your competences.

In France, a PH.D. can be a hindrance. Some French employers consider an engineering doing research is "fleeing the realities of job market" and unfit for operational work. A French colleague of mine explained that he realised he was paid less with diploma +4 years PH.D than a freshly hired engineer with 3 years experience.

In Belgium, being an egghead is considered "pretentious" and we are potential primma donnas for Belgian Employers. Plus the salaries offered were around 32K. 35K for my wife because chemical engineers are paid more there.

In Belgium, i was told my master thesis (studying the thermonuclear reactions in the sun) "wasn't concrete enough". The funny thing is a German recruiter told me "ooh, i would have liked to do that"

Then a friend of ours working in Germany told us to come here and we found a very different landscape. So when we both found good jobs in the same city in a short time span, we didn't ask questions. Also, i thought naively that i would be paid the same as my other colleague because we would talk and they would find out about the social dumping and i believed the employer would have liked to avoid that. But it's all settled now. I quickly found out.

[T3ngu]

Pro tip guys, Masters and PHD doesn't mean squat in the real world if you still think like a student.

I have seen brilliant people come out, but a lot who go Undergrad, grad, PHD don't fit the real world. I have a PHD working for me ATM same , good operator, but spends too much time looking at 10% of a problem. Here it doesn't draw you more $$ but some form of post grad helps later on.

[Grax]

My plan for the future is -> Master -> Doctor and probably MBA (somehow)

And what I will get for this... 2000€ pm that's what I call fairness!