House committee schedules contempt vote against Holder

[California Joe]

For what? Being a big meanie? The one to blame here is Holder. All he had to do was turn over the documents. Sounds to me that the Democrats think that since Obamacare was ruled on that they have carte blanche to do whatever the hell they want and it won't come back to bite them.

You really are simple.


Needs, it's not just the Administration trying to make hay, do you seriously believe that Issa is being altruistic?

[NeedsABetterName]

You really are simple.


Needs, it's not just the Administration trying to make hay, do you seriously believe that Issa is being altruistic?

Nope. But the ends justify the means here. Holder needs to be held accountable, and I'm surprised that the best they could do is a pissant contempt charge (I personally feel that perjury would have been more appropriate -- Holder has lied before the committee on several occasions). If Issa/the GOP get benefit from that, so be it.

Edit:

Holder has demonstrated on several occasions that he lacks integrity. From the Black Panthers deal to the current Fast and Furious deal, he has consistently shown himself to be undeserving of the office he holds. Republicans may get good press from the investigation, but it's pretty cut-and-dry that he's in contempt (14? months to provide documents. Shows up prior to Issa's "sh*t's about to get real" deadline and says, "I won't comply with your request, but you need to drop the contempt charge"). This bullsh*t about it being about race, the Obama administration, or party lines is just that (to me): bullsh*t. To me, it's about a lying, politically-motivated c*cksucker who thinks he's above the law. Again, if the GOP draws benefit from forcing the issue, so be it.

[G-AWZT]

It's like were in some fvcked up 3rd world government. I have been around awhile and this is the worst I have seen.

Blame the post 1972 white/black Marxists who've been chomping at the bit to take over. Well they did in '08 and now we are seeing the result of their efforts learned in leftist higher education. We see that they are completely detached from reality and have no idea how to properly govern or administrate affairs of a country, especially one that was founded on slightly right of center ideals. Otrauma and his cabal were brought in as a reactionary vote by the public to 2 terms of Bush whom people incorrectly labelled as being some sort of far right administration. Bush's domestic and foreign policies were extremely unique as a result of a surprise attack upon the U.S. by outside forces on 9/11. Only one previous Pres. had to deal with such an event.
Hopefully this country goes through a correction in November, the post '72 Marxists/Socialists/Leftists are thrown out en masse and we go back to slightly right of center. I seriously doubt that we will see another Democrat elected for another 8-12 years and 24-32 years before another black Dem is elected. Otrauma's stain runs deep.

[California Joe]

Jesus, you are such a f*cking drama queen. Maybe Glee is hiring.

You realize that you sound as strident as those Code Pink types that wanted Bush and everyone else tried for war crimes right? Well, maybe you don't.

[NeedsABetterName]

Jesus, you are such a f*cking drama queen. Maybe Glee is hiring.

You realize that you sound as strident as those Code Pink types that wanted Bush and everyone else tried for war crimes right? Well, maybe you don't.

We should all shut up and ignore this stuff because similar things happened under previous administrations? And since previous administrations did it, this one should get a pass?

Give me a break. I get it that you're tired of certain members turning the PD&R section into the right-wing version of Democratic Underground, but that doesn't mean that there aren't legitimate grievances to be had against this administration. This is definitely one of the better ones in my book. It was a bullsh*t operation to begin with, and the (entirely preventable) fallout from it has been made worse by Holder's actions. The stupidity Holder's exhibited is more than enough to signal that he doesn't need to be heading up DOJ.

[beNder]

Blame the post 1972 white/black Marxists who've been chomping at the bit to take over. Well they did in '08 and now we are seeing the result of their efforts learned in leftist higher education. We see that they are completely detached from reality and have no idea how to properly govern or administrate affairs of a country, especially one that was founded on slightly right of center ideals. Otrauma and his cabal were brought in as a reactionary vote by the public to 2 terms of Bush whom people incorrectly labelled as being some sort of far right administration. Bush's domestic and foreign policies were extremely unique as a result of a surprise attack upon the U.S. by outside forces on 9/11. Only one previous Pres. had to deal with such an event.
Hopefully this country goes through a correction in November, the post '72 Marxists/Socialists/Leftists are thrown out en masse and we go back to slightly right of center. I seriously doubt that we will see another Democrat elected for another 8-12 years and 24-32 years before another black Dem is elected. Otrauma's stain runs deep.

Seems you are the one completely detached from reality.

Uhm, what is the difference between a Democrat and a black Democrat?

[California Joe]

We should all shut up and ignore this stuff because similar things happened under previous administrations? And since previous administrations did it, this one should get a pass?

Give me a break. I get it that you're tired of certain members turning the PD&R section into the right-wing version of Democratic Underground, but that doesn't mean that there aren't legitimate grievances to be had against this administration. This is definitely one of the better ones in my book. It was a bullsh*t operation to begin with, and the (entirely preventable) fallout from it has been made worse by Holder's actions. The stupidity Holder's exhibited is more than enough to signal that he doesn't need to be heading up DOJ.

You know what? I'm not disagreeing with you. This is a collosal f*ckup. I just don't get the logic that immediately assumes that Eric Holder is inherently evil, and he was appointed by the equally evil Obama to destroy the country from within by giving Messicans free guns so they can shoot our agents and cut off the heads of numerous other Messicans after shooting them with said guns.

The Fortune article may not be exactly what happened, but the guy did due dilligence in his research, and it certainly places blame on the agency but it paints a picture that rings at least partly true to me. Disgruntled asshole employee starts sh*t, and it get's picked up by congress as a killer election year issue. This does not equate to some Manchurian Candidate conspiracy and it sure as f*ck is strident.

[NeedsABetterName]

You know what? I'm not disagreeing with you. This is a collosal f*ckup. I just don't get the logic that immediately assumes that Eric Holder is inherently evil, and he was appointed by the equally evil Obama to destroy the country from within by giving Messicans free guns so they can shoot our agents and cut off the heads of numerous other Messicans after shooting them with said guns.

The Fortune article may not be exactly what happened, but the guy did due dilligence in his research, and it certainly places blame on the agency but it paints a picture that rings at least partly true to me. Disgruntled asshole employee starts sh*t, and it get's picked up by congress as a killer election year issue. This does not equate to some Manchurian Candidate conspiracy and it sure as f*ck is strident.

And yet I haven't popped off with some grand conspiracy?

2009: Holder refuses to prosecute a pretty obvious case of voter suppression.
2011-2012: Holder attacks several states, mine included, as part of some ridiculous racist voter suppression plot because they had the audacity to make sure the name on the f*cking voter registration card matched the person pulling the lever.
2011-Present: Holder has intentionally delayed, obfuscated, and lied to investigators about an operation that probably shouldn't have gone forward as it did in the first place, His exact involvement in said operation is unclear -- thanks to his stonewalling.
2012: Florida attempts to purge ineligible voters from its rolls. Holder decides that this is a violation of the Voting Rights Act, playing the race card once again. Federal judge blocks this action. Holder pouts.

I don't think Holder is some sort of evil communist plot to destroy the country, as you seem to be insinuating. I do take issue with his track record, the points I outlined above among them. That is where I draw my "he has no business holding the office that he does" line of logic; he's a proven loser, for lack of a better term.

[California Joe]

I never said YOU thought that....

[G-AWZT]

Uhm, what is the difference between a Democrat and a black Democrat?

Otrauma, Rangel, Waters, et al. They are black Democrats.............because they are black as opposed to a white Democrat like Clinton who is white.

[C.Puffs]

You really are simple.

So you think Holder would still have been hit with contempt if he'd cooperated? Really?

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Relevant music for the 2012 election

[LineDoggie]

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Uhm, what is the difference between a Democrat and a black Democrat?

Maybe we should ask Emanuel Cleaver of the CBC?

[FlintHillBilly]

Issa reveals wiretap docs from DOJ mole

Issa entered the sensitive, and previously undisclosed, information into the Congressional Record on Thursday during the floor debate leading up to the passage of his resolution placing Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress.

The powerful Republican might be protected from what otherwise would be a criminal offense under Congress’s speech and debate clause because the remarks were written into the public record during chamber proceedings.

I wonder what other info the mole may supply to Issa.

[LineDoggie]

Makes no Difference DOJ has said they refuse to prosecute Holder