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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    It is not racist and there was or is a reason for it. It has to do with disproportionate representation in higher ed. Kids coming from better homes, better neighborhood, better school systems don't have a problem going to college. The minds have equal capacity but it is the environment that they are raised in, it can aid or inhibit a person from going to college.

    There is a scholarship of any kid, who is the first person/first generation in their family to go to college. A kid who has parents or family who have been to college can not get that scholarship. Opportunity is not always equal.
    There are also gender based scholarships as well.

    I wonder when we will see the first lawsuit by a male against a female focused scholarship as women have(IIRC) far exceeded parity as entering students in a number of high paying fields....such as medicine and law.

    it will be interesting to see how this stuff pans out over the next couple of decades.

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    Interesting paper.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    It is not racist and there was or is a reason for it. It has to do with disproportionate representation in higher ed. Kids coming from better homes, better neighborhood, better school systems don't have a problem going to college. The minds have equal capacity but it is the environment that they are raised in, it can aid or inhibit a person from going to college.

    There is a scholarship of any kid, who is the first person/first generation in their family to go to college. A kid who has parents or family who have been to college can not get that scholarship. Opportunity is not always equal.
    I suspect that in some race-based scholarships, there is also an additional qualification that, besides good grades, the household income can't be over a certain amount.
    The way I see it, I can understand in many cases why such scholarships are given, especially for certain degrees. For example, in the sciences and engineering, whites and Asians disproportionately outnumber blacks, Hispanics, and Native Americans, notably those who are low-income. The idea is for there to be an incentive for those underrepresented groups to go into that sort of major; in the long run, the community would then be helped by the large number of graduates.
    A noble thought, though in the end, there needs to be more than just scholarships and student life programs to get these underrepresented demographics into those majors, and it begins in the community and K-12 level. the scholarships help however, especially in this era of tuition hikes, though hopefully there will be a day where race-and-gender-based scholarships will be a quaint relic of the past.

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    A 4.25 cumulative GPA and he only received 3 out of 22 scholarships that he applied for? Wow, he should be getting a free ride from college with those types of academic performance. Aww, but he is probably not an athlete so he gets diddly squat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK in AK View Post
    A 4.25 cumulative GPA and he only received 3 out of 22 scholarships that he applied for? Wow, he should be getting a free ride from college with those types of academic performance. Aww, but he is probably not an athlete so he gets diddly squat!
    Speaking of athletics, P Diddy, the multi-millionaire music mogul, his son got an athletic scholarship to UCLA...I sense a disconnect...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK in AK View Post
    A 4.25 cumulative GPA and he only received 3 out of 22 scholarships that he applied for? Wow, he should be getting a free ride from college with those types of academic performance. Aww, but he is probably not an athlete so he gets diddly squat!
    That's the life of this generation, gets anything they want and don't have to accomplish anything. Right?
    It's not like an education is expensive or something.

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    i got 8.5/10 CGPA with excellent career record ,can i get some scholarship for being brown ?

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    Is the money coming from the government or from the pockets of the senior citizens?

    If it's the latter then why all the fuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tibia View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CrYsIs View Post
    i got 8.5/10 CGPA with excellent career record ,can i get some scholarship for being brown ?
    Do yourself a favor and read the link Tibia provided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    It is not racist and there was or is a reason for it. It has to do with disproportionate representation in higher ed. Kids coming from better homes, better neighborhood, better school systems don't have a problem going to college. The minds have equal capacity but it is the environment that they are raised in, it can aid or inhibit a person from going to college.

    There is a scholarship of any kid, who is the first person/first generation in their family to go to college. A kid who has parents or family who have been to college can not get that scholarship. Opportunity is not always equal.
    So make the scholarship about helping financially disadvantaged children (will automatically help the black community since the majority live in bad neighborhoods, right) without ever specifying the color of the skin. The scholarship will be seen as a good thing by all and not as an instrument of racial segregation.

    Opportunity is not always equal, that is true! But when for equal minds and equal financial problems you (as an individual) get passed by because of the color of your skin (since the state wants to achieve some global ratio as part of social planing) and then you are asked to pay the same level of taxes, I can understand why resentment towards positive discriminations builds up in US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BogT View Post
    I can understand why resentment towards positive discriminations builds up in US.
    Part of the resentment is that a lot of people are not informed and then we have our politicians who play it up to gather votes and money. There are all kinds of scholarships, some are people who are going to study a specific field, some are for trade schools, some for people only at a specific high school, etc. I believe it is something that needs to watch and adjust as time and needs change.

    If 20 % of the a specific group of our society represents less than 10% of college students, that may or may reflect a problem. If it does than a scholarship addressing that disproportionate representation maybe be what is needed. (% are made up)

    Some one mentioned sports, yeah for certain demographics groups in the US, sports can be seen as the only way out of a poor community, it is a big gamble. Those who actually make it out VIA sports is a small % of those trying. There is a reason the NCAA (national collegiate athletic association) monitors sports scholarships, there are schools/coaches who abuse those players too. There are/has been problems with alumni sports associations in their "suppose" helping the school and athlete.

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    If only I decended from slaves, been segregated and impoverished, I should be so lucky too.

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    I woulda pulled a soul man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattfink View Post
    Does anyone award a scholarship simply for being white?
    You can piecemeal the white label by applying for some sort of (Irish, Dutch, Swedish, etc)-American scholarship.

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    I would have kept it and spray tanned my ass.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit View Post
    You can piecemeal the white label by applying for some sort of (Irish, Dutch, Swedish, etc)-American scholarship.
    Yeah Kiss the Blarney Stone, there are scholarships only for the Irish:

    http://www.scholarship-source.com/hi...olarships.html

    Oh for the love of Chocolate there are scholarships for the Dutch descendents too:

    http://tofudi.com/tag/scholarships-f...h-descendants/

    Hej Svensk, Ya betcha, Ya gottem too:

    http://scholarshipssss.com/swedish-scholarships


    I wonder............. For the information age, not much information.
    Last edited by Hollis; 06-14-2012 at 02:53 PM.

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