Reply With QuotePossible I guess, but probably BS.Originally Posted by Camera
The Sunday Times reports that Russian technicians participated in shooting the plane. The incident was a Russian message to NATO not to intervene in Syria: http://www.timesofisrael.com/sources...turkish-plane/
Possible I guess, but probably BS.
There are pilots who fly with one hand on the ejection handle, they make the time.....the good one never touch it.
Flying above the deck even over water can limit your line of com signal....not to mention radio silence is usually maintained during such operations.
Normal procedures for air traffic controllers is to try to reach the intruding aircraft to determine its intentions on published radio frequencies for that airspace and also the emergency frequency (121.50 VHF). Military aircraft also (and mostly) operate in UHF band and these frequencies are known as well by all. If no reply is heard from the aircraft and it doesn't seem to be in an emergency or following any lost com procedures then military actions can follow, all pilots are aware of this.
US doesn't sell UCAVs even to its most trusted allies: Italy, Australia, Canada . I think only UK has an access to Predators combat capabilities.
To think that some newspaper article was the reason of US refusal to sell UCAVs to Turkey is rather naive .
Syrians could have also jammed communication signals, there are accounts of foreign pilots flying with Turkish Airforce close to Syria's territorial waters acknowledging such events..
http://www.airforce-magazine.com/DRA...etWeapons.aspxItalian Reapers May Get Weapons:The Obama Administration would like to sell Italy weapons for its fleet of MQ-9 Reaper remotely piloted aircraft, according to press reports. The White House sent a confidential "pre-notification" to lawmakers in April detailing a plan to sell weapons kits to Italy to arm up to six Reapers, reported the Wall Street Journal (via the New York Post) on May 29. Formal congressional notification could come as soon as this week, stated the newspaper. Pentagon Press Secretary George Little told reporters on May 29 that he couldn't "comment directly" on the topic, since "there's a formal notification process to Congress" that has to play out. "I will say more broadly that, when it comes to foreign military sales to Italy, that they're a strong partner and a strong ally" and "it's important for us, for a variety of reasons, to share technologies and capabilities with them," he said. Britain already operates armed US-supplied RPA.
that article published before congress gonna speak about UAV selling at last Obama & Erdogan meeting Obama guarantee after elections,Turkish Armed Forces already give answer to WSJs article btw.
Turkish Army denies WSJ report on jet downed by Syria
The Turkish General Staff gas denied claims by The Wall Street Journal that a Turkish jet shot down by Syria on June 22 was hit in Syrian air space.
The General Staff published a statement on its website July 1, giving detailed information on the plane's last known coordinates. "The plane was shot 13 miles off the Syrian coast, in international air space. The last coordinates at which the plane resumed controlled flight were 35 48.22 North, 35 33.21 East. From that point on, the plane quickly began to lose speed and altitude, crashing near 35 48.26 North, 35 37.59 East, within Syrian waters."
The statement said the plane was flying solo and unarmed in a mission to test radar systems.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tur...&NewsCatID=338
So plane was shot down @ 7,400ft and not 200ft..
I just wonder if anybody even noticed why Syrian 12-mile zone starts not at the same distance from shore as Turkish zone? What it is, illustrator mistake or some real difference in distance?
Turkey scrambles F-16 jets on Syria border
Border incident
Four of the six jets were scrambled from the air base of Incirlik in response to Syrian helicopters flying close to the Turkish province of Hatay, ******* quoted Sunday's army statement as saying.
Two more F-16s took off from a base in Batman after Syrian helicopters were spotted close to the province of Mardin, it added.
The military said the helicopters flew as close as four miles (6.5km) to the border, according to the AP news agency.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18666165
that is not even close to the border for a slow moving helicopter. Is there a no fly zone over Syria?
why is this a border incident?
Dunno ask BBC why they revised the tittle so quickly after I posted it..
Not one or two, but six of them. They're not relaxed these days.
Sunday Times
As trustable as Debka and Irna
If it is an AAA (either Shilka or Pantsyr) no need for a nearby technician to aim and unleash thousands of bullets/min
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