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    Some points about islam in Spain:

    Andalusia [mediaeval Spain].
    This is partly true but not all. Muslims called Spain Al-Andalus, but that name is not arab, the name comes from "Vandalus" or somethig like that, which is the name that the Vandals gave to Spain (the vandals were a germanic tribe).


    Within 100 years of his death, Muslim armies had conquered the previously Christian provinces of Syria, Palestine, Egypt and the rest of North Africa, as well as Spain, Portugal and southern Italy, until they were stopped at Poitiers in central France in ad 732.
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    Muslim armies did some kind of 'blitzkrieg' but they never got to settle in Northern Spain . This zones which today are Galicia, Asturias, Cantabria, Basque Country, Northern Aragon , Navarra and Northern Castilla never lost their Christian influence and the Reconquista started there.
    In the end of the days of the Muslim invasion Spain was divided in Leon, Castilla, Navarra, Aragon and Granada. This last part, Granada, belonged to the muslims, and the name Al- Andalus was used only for Granada.


    ‘The presumption is that the duty of jihad will continue, interrupted only by truces, until all the world either adopts the Muslim faith or submits to Muslim rule,’
    I don't know now, but at least 600 years ago they lived together with Christians and Jews. A good example of this is Toledo, where you can find in its small historycal center synagoges, churches and mosques, and the chronists of that time described Toledo as a city of mutual tolerance by the 3 religions. Also in cities like Damascus and Beirut you can find a similar situation.

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    Islam really does want to conquer the world. That’s because Muslims, unlike many Christians, actually believe they are right, and that their religion is the path to salvation for all
    Isn't that what we christians thought a couple of centuries ago, when we tried to christian the entire world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Archon-
    Islam really does want to conquer the world. That’s because Muslims, unlike many Christians, actually believe they are right, and that their religion is the path to salvation for all
    Isn't that what we christians thought a couple of centuries ago, when we tried to christian the entire world?
    Yep. The printing press saved us from Christianity. The church and state no longer had a monopoly on history and current events. Scientists could publish their findings to the masses, exposing the numerous "inconsistencies" in the Bible.

    Today, the internet is playing much the same role, eliminating propaganda and ignorance throughout the world, and exposing those things evil-doers would like to keep hidden. People still might be fooled at first by some bad online info, but this won't last, the truth always wins out eventually.

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    Kenobi shouldn't you and Secret Squirrel be out celebrating the 9/11 attacks?

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    It is really really freaky. The more I've studied the Islamists the more difficult to believe! And GW "gets it". It is a truth however that cannot be spoken. But historians will look back with the benefit of that hindsight and Bush will rank with the Big Dogs.
    BTW Michael Ledeen's book The War Against the Terror Masters is excellent for setting the historical stage, comparing recent administrations and charting the prescription for victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OB Kenobi
    Quote Originally Posted by -Archon-
    Islam really does want to conquer the world. That’s because Muslims, unlike many Christians, actually believe they are right, and that their religion is the path to salvation for all
    Isn't that what we christians thought a couple of centuries ago, when we tried to christian the entire world?
    Yep. The printing press saved us from Christianity. The church and state no longer had a monopoly on history and current events. Scientists could publish their findings to the masses, exposing the numerous "inconsistencies" in the Bible.

    Today, the internet is playing much the same role, eliminating propaganda and ignorance throughout the world, and exposing those things evil-doers would like to keep hidden. People still might be fooled at first by some bad online info, but this won't last, the truth always wins out eventually.
    the printing press was invented to mass produce copies of the Bible so all could read them

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    The more I've studied the Islamists the more difficult to believe! And GW "gets it".
    Ariel Sharon knows it as well.

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    In my experience, Christians still believe that only Christians get to go to heaven. But in the 20th and 21st centuries, they've given up conversion at the point of the sword. Big difference.

    It's one thing for a televangelist to tell me "put your faith in Jesus or you will go to hell!" I roll my eyes and change the channel. No harm no foul. It's entirely different for Osama Bin Laden and the like to say "convert or die." And then to murder innocents because they didn't convert.

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    Check out this garbage: http://www.churchoftrueisrael.com/

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    OMFG...........ADMINS PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD

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    Well that is what the Muslim Ullamah is for. When the gov't caught an official of a muslim separatist group in the Philippines. A reporter asked him if the violence will stop if the go'vt ceded half the Island to them. He said no, it will continue till we get the whole island and then we will proceed to take over the rest of the country.

    Islam will not stop spreading. It will do so by it's fast birthrate and by forced conversions like in Indonesia and voluntary conversions of caucassians in the West who are always fascinated by exotic religions. The fact that a muslim man can marry a non muslim woman but a non muslim man cannot marry a non muslim woman is alreadya disadvantage to "non-muslims". A muslim cannot convert to another religion under pain of death.

    A collegue of mine who is a muslim himself (i live in an Islamic country BTW but not a muslim) said that Islam is a globalizing religion. It needs to spread. He is no Mullah or scholar but there he is an ordinary guy with this point of view. A much easier prey for fanaticisim.


    I beleive that Islam will conquer this world within this century. I am resigned to it. I beleive my son will fight a war against this religion wether he likes it or not. I may even live to see the war. It's a hunch. THere is no stopping it.

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    Warlord
    A collegue of mine who is a muslim himself (i live in an Islamic country BTW but not a muslim) said that Islam is a globalizing religion. It needs to spread. He is no Mullah or scholar but there he is an ordinary guy with this point of view. A much easier prey for fanaticisim.
    Well a guy that I used to work with {a philippino truck driver} told me that{ just because a few guys were caught doing bad things} most Europeans that travel to
    the Philippines were pedophiles What should we do about that? Ask them to leave their balls upon entrance at the immigration booth at the airport?

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    These fundamentalists do not represent Islam. They're just the most outspoken part. The rest are the 'silent majority'.

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