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    Don't forget some have real and serious mental issues, the "Air Force " guy in his desert boots bloused and ribbons up to his eyebrows comes to mind.
    Losers in every sense of the word. I almost feel sorry for them. But I don't. I think the intense fear and shame that they would get from a "conversation" with a few veterans would be more helpful than a beating though. Well, for most of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skippy_Doolittle View Post
    Probably depends on the area... in Canada many Police Services own the rights to their image and crests and can apply those laws to people wearing uniforms...
    In the US, Police are a different matter as they have authority over citizens. Impersonate a cop and you are definitely going to jail.

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    I know that here, we tried to charge with Personation if someone said that their name was 'Master Corporal John Bloggins' - however case law shows that if the guys name IS John Bloggins, and he did not serve, we have to then prove that there IS a Master Corporal John Bloggins and that buddy was giving his false rank for a benefit... not just for ID.

    If John Bloggins does not exist in the CF, then no charge unless the name was false in the beginning. And oh yeah, Personation of a Police Officer is a Summary Offence - **** all for punishment.

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    I agree with most of the above. It's despicable, but ultimately they have the right to lie. Unless they're getting something out of the lies like VA benefits, in which case it becomes fraud and they should be prosecuted

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevlar308 View Post
    In the US, Police are a different matter as they have authority over citizens. Impersonate a cop and you are definitely going to jail.
    We will arrest, seize your uniform, give you a court appearance or bail depending... and slap on the wrist unless other charges apply. And since most people who do this have mental health issues, we welcome them back to our Canadian Society with open arms.

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    SVA is unconstitutional while Obamacare isn't. I ****ing hate the government. Any place I can move where the politicians aren't retarded?
    Last edited by Token White Guy; 06-28-2012 at 02:16 PM.

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    I'll be wearing my uniform to work accordingly tomorrow.

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    I won the Legion of Honor at Dien Bien Phu, Order of Glory while commanding a T-34 at Kursk, the EK I at Verdun, and the War Merit Cross in North Africa, when I was in the Ramke Brigade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaijinsamurai View Post
    I'll be wearing my uniform to work accordingly tomorrow.

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    I won the Legion of Honor at Dien Bien Phu, Order of Glory while commanding a T-34 at Kursk, the EK I at Verdun, and the War Merit Cross in North Africa, when I was in the Ramke Brigade.
    I wish I was there with you... my Order of the British Empire would mean more to me if I had bought it in Korea.

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    As the owner of a tiny medal mounting business in my spare time, I put part of the blame on the companies that sell replicas and ribbons to anyone. I realize that money is what matters, however I have turned down customers whose medal or ribbon requests (they LOVE miniatures) seem unreal. I have contacts at NDHQ I can contact when I get the 'I was JTF2 and was awarded the Medal of Military Valour but its all pretty black ops...' who will confirm yeah or nah on the person and the citation.

    If companies did a tad bit of due diligence then some of these rejects would be stopped - although as I type this I think of how many get the wrong order of ribbons that they pick up anywhere and now I am too lazy to erase this paragraph. But my point is still valid...

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    Good for you, Skippy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaijinsamurai View Post
    Good for you, Skippy.
    Thanks... I have turned away customers cause the medals don't match what we know to be true. Though for you GS I will gladly look after your well earned Awards as pictured above

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token White Guy View Post
    SVA is unconstitutional while Obamacare is. I ****ing hate the government. Any place I can move where the politicians aren't retarded?
    YES
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhutan#...t_and_politics

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    And we will always rip the **** out of every poser right here on mp.net

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token White Guy View Post
    SVA is unconstitutional while Obamacare isn't. I ****ing hate the government. Any place I can move where the politicians aren't retarded?
    SVA is unconstitutional because of freedom of speech. As a veteran, I honestly don't get too bent out of shape about these turds - at the end of the day, I know I'm legit, and that they're liars.

    The Supreme Court didn't exactly say that Obamacare was constitutional, nor did they offer opinions about whether or not it was good policy. They simply said that congress was not exceeding their rights to levy taxes; in this case, a tax imposed on those individuals who don't have healthcare by 2014. In all honesty, I think the tax penalty is far lower than the annual cost of insurance if one is paying out of pocket. That said, I don't like the precedent, I don't like the idea that government should take care of us, and I think the way Obama and the administration went about this whole thing was very sneaky and underhanded.

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