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    I see the future of American politics will be successive administration repealing everything the previous did. Progress indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattfink View Post
    I see the future of American politics will be successive administration repealing everything the previous did. Progress indeed.
    If that "progress" involves repealing the Liberal/Progressive agenda and restoring the middle class then yes, progress indeed.
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    Should this be merged with the other Obamacare thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattfink View Post
    I see the future of American politics will be successive administration repealing everything the previous did. Progress indeed.
    If only. We might actually get rid of our unsustainable welfare state without having to wait for its disastrous collapse were that true. But at least there is a real chance we can get rid of this total clusterfvck of a 'heathcare' law, and replace it with solutions that might actually lower costs instead of increasing them dramatically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camerashy View Post
    If that "progress" involves repealing the Liberal/Progressive agenda and restoring the middle class then yes, progress indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnie100 View Post
    Should this be merged with the other Obamacare thread?
    That thread was about the SCotUS ruling. This thread is about the Repubs and their plan to address the issue going forward. These topics are best discussed separately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camerashy View Post
    If that "progress" involves repealing the Liberal/Progressive agenda and restoring the middle class then yes, progress indeed.
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    And how comes that big part of the cost grow was under republicans? It doesnt look like they were better at health care compared to democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camerashy View Post
    If that "progress" involves repealing the Liberal/Progressive agenda and restoring the middle class then yes, progress indeed.
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    What are you trying to illustrate here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    If only. We might actually get rid of our unsustainable welfare state without having to wait for its disastrous collapse were that true. But at least there is a real chance we can get rid of this total clusterfvck of a 'heathcare' law, and replace it with solutions that might actually lower costs instead of increasing them dramatically.
    I'll say a prayer for you. You are counting on a guy that set up his own healthcare clusterfuk as governor? This is just same old politics from GOP. Both parties have been taking turns to screw the population, if there's anything to repeal, it's the pathetic excuse of a political system that's been destroying the socio-economic fabric of the nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universal_Soldier View Post
    I'll say a prayer for you. You are counting on a guy that set up his own healthcare clusterfuk as governor? This is just same old politics from GOP. Both parties have been taking turns to screw the population, if there's anything to repeal, it's the pathetic excuse of a political system that's been destroying the socio-economic fabric of the nation.
    Good point and I would like a prayer as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universal_Soldier View Post
    I'll say a prayer for you. You are counting on a guy that set up his own healthcare clusterfuk as governor? This is just same old politics from GOP. Both parties have been taking turns to screw the population, if there's anything to repeal, it's the pathetic excuse of a political system that's been destroying the socio-economic fabric of the nation.
    I said "at least there is a real chance". You falsely morphed that into "you are counting on". If you respond directly to my posts, please respond to what I actually say. Thanks.

    I will agree with you on the political system, and I have said pretty much the same thing so many times here that I am surprised you would think you would have to explain that to me. I believe that it will take a total collapse to significantly change our political system within our lifetimes, and if that happened what replaced it might be even less to our liking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    I said "at least there is a real chance". You falsely morphed that into "you are counting on". If you respond directly to my posts, please respond to what I actually say. Thanks.

    I will agree with you on the political system, and I have said pretty much the same thing so many times here that I am surprised you would think you would have to explain that to me. I believe that it will take a total collapse to significantly change our political system within our lifetimes, and if that happened what replaced it might be even less to our liking.
    My bad. I guess I misinterpreted your post. I think we are mostly in agreement.

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    When I worked for the Navy we had an open season once a year to review and switch health care plans from a variety of them that were all within the framework. Like 25 different ones. You pick one that suits you and your family and you get a decent rate due to the fact that there was a large block of all government employees that were choosing the same thing. Sheer volume gets better prices. Simple really. Why the f*ck that wouldn't work if you replaced "government employees" with "all Americans" is beyond me. I could have written a 15 page health care bill for f*ckssakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by California Joe View Post
    When I worked for the Navy we had an open season once a year to review and switch health care plans from a variety of them that were all within the framework. Like 25 different ones. You pick one that suits you and your family and you get a decent rate due to the fact that there was a large block of all government employees that were choosing the same thing. Sheer volume gets better prices. Simple really. Why the f*ck that wouldn't work if you replaced "government employees" with "all Americans" is beyond me. I could have written a 15 page health care bill for f*ckssakes.

    If the system was this simple and effective, i think it would have alot of support on both sides of the aisle. I can vouch for the idea that more policies means lower rates. a large retailer i used to work for with nearly 100,000 employees had an single basic healthcare plan that ran about $35 a paycheck. The place i worked after that had about 200 employees, their package was about $300 a paycheck. The more packages an employer purchases, the lower the rate is going to be. Unfortunately in today's day and age though many large companies that have that kind of purchasing power hire primarily part time employees, so they avoid needing to provide coverage at all. 20/30 years ago when you had major industrial and manufacturing companies that had thousands of employees and good paying full time positions, the health insurance was much more affordable for all.

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