Reply With QuoteMeh, not surprising and not really significant for that matter.
UNESCO makes Chruch of Nativity endangered site
UNESCO's World Heritage committee has voted to approve a Palestinian bid to the place the Church of Nativity in Bethlehem on the site of lists of world dangers.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...249093,00.html
Meh, not surprising and not really significant for that matter.
How so if I may ask?Originally Posted by EITAN88
It won't bring the Palestinians closer to having a viable and independent state.
Oh, I thought you said the Church itself was insignificant.
This is only the beginning.
It's nice to see how islamists take a thing by force or insidiously and use diplomacy to conquer another thing. Like islamists did in Libya. They spoke about atrocities by Khadaffi and cried to get international help by diplomacy and after having got what they wanted, they put the sharia.
This is the same thing here. Islamists persecute and force into exile the christians from Bethlehem and try to use diplomacy to say that Israel is the ugly monster responsible of all.
Really sometimes I wonder why our western countries don't try to counteract that.
Not at all, I have nothing against the decision itself as the Church is indeed a significant religious site. My problem is with the actual motives of the Palestinian delegation.
The beginning of what?
We (or perhaps our media) have this annoying habit of trying very hard to scare ourselves.
Wars, rockets, suicied bombings... all of these have not broken our spirit, so a series of votes by UNESCO will?
Abbas needs to stop playing games and return to the negotiating table as that's the only way he can achieve statehood for his people.
Sadly Abbas doesn't seem like a big enough man to do this.
Nah not war. Its not the UNESCO organization that is scary. Its the little by little steps that add up eventually. What is going to happen in the future when UNESCO approves 4 more heritage sites in the PA corner. I believe this can add up to further problems in the future from the international community ( not the specific church decision).The beginning of what?
We (or perhaps our media) have this annoying habit of trying very hard to scare ourselves.
Wars, rockets, suicied bombings... all of these have not broken our spirit, so a series of votes by UNESCO will?
Abbas needs to stop playing games and return to the negotiating table as that's the only way he can achieve statehood for his people.
Sadly Abbas doesn't seem like a big enough man to do this.
Nobody from the PLO will ever consider a peaceful statehood. And Hamas will certainly not give up power in Gaza for a 'unification'. Its a violation of their charter.
What do they add up to?
It's not as if 10 world heritage sites listed under "Palestine" will trigger some sort of magical spell that will make an actual Palestinian state appear from thin air
J.Noah, why time after time you open here threads, which have nothing to do not with military, nor with photos?
Besides, there is "political discussions and rants" section in this forum..
On the topic: the problematic thing here is that they registered the site under the name "Palestine", while there is no such a country, and the final status of this territory is not defined yet.
And more on the topic:
Bethlehem's exodus
Christians flee Muslim pressure
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion...rsPLBceXPzHO6I
Only Allah can do that!What do they add up to?
It's not as if 10 world heritage sites listed under "Palestine" will trigger some sort of magical spell that will make an actual Palestinian state appear from thin air
No I just think world opinion and world pressure especially from the UN is already in the negative with Israel. Its bad enough that the UN does not read and respect Israel's rights under international law. I just think this decision can lead into future decisions which is a continual encroachment of international law. If this does not make sense then I just need to stop and drink a Goldstar.
Apologies.. Its just a bad habit.
In the end what really matters in the U.N is the Security Council... if Israel ever loses the support of the United States, this will be the biggest and most dangerous blow on the diplomatic front.
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