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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilgor View Post
    Bio fuels border on insanity, foods is made for eatings.
    That's a common misunderstanding.......How about cellulosic ethanol? Not all bio-fuels come from edible stuff you know.
    Blame the bureaucracy and the lobbyists that are hell bent on profiteering rather than basic economics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    Anybody ever gone to the store and tried to buy nothing with corn products in it? You have to look I'll tell you that.
    Same thing with Soy.

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    Watch for the price of milk to go up too. If the price of grain goes up to feed the dairy cows the dairy farmers price the cost to the dairies and then to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CG51 View Post
    True, watched Food Inc (I think that is the Doc that shows all the products made from corn, just chemically modified). Worth a watch. Future of Food is good too.
    Ugh. Farenheit 911 but about farming.

    Quote Originally Posted by Meatwad View Post
    Same thing with Soy.
    Corn and soy are grown on a rotation as they like the same climates. Unsuprizing that it finds it's way into as many things as corn does.

    Corn is mostly dryland farmed in the US too relying on only rain not unlike simple hay pastures (which are irrigated more often than cornfields, btw, because they are typically marginal farming ground). The "damage" of it is overblown. And really, what else are farmers going to grow? Lettuce? Beets? They have even more problems and require even more resources to grow. The only stuff that requires less are the bottom-end cereal grains like sorghum, rye, and barley. But nobody makes any money farming only them as they are typically used exclusively for livestock feed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiptox View Post
    Ugh. Farenheit 911 but about farming.
    Eating crap has become a conservative value?
    Just because a healthy food industry looks a bit hippy like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackie View Post
    Eating crap has become a conservative value?
    Just because a healthy food industry looks a bit hippy like?
    The whole point of the film was that BIG FOOD (Monsanto, ConAgra, Cargill, Dow Chemical, ADM, et. al) was poisoning us with their cashcrops of greed. Perhaps you missed that part. It was real subtle.

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    And Monsato did what else than sell gen crap to the farmers? I am glad that this bastards are out of the market here.

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    Yeah some of Monsanto's business policies are... questionable. Thing is though, gen crops are the only path we have to take if we wish to not throw so much resources (be it water or nutrients) at those crops.
    And many people who I know work there, or are planning to, have an honest conviction that they are feeding the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/48017324High-fructose corn syrup is the sweetener used in a wide variety of products, especially soft drinks, so they will go up in price as well.
    Glad to hear.

    Quote Originally Posted by IraGlacialis View Post
    Yeah some of Monsanto's business policies are... questionable.
    And environmental policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    Anybody ever gone to the store and tried to buy nothing with corn products in it? You have to look I'll tell you that.
    Why would we *not* use inexpensive grains to their utmost potential? If you want foods without corn, go shop at Whole Foods or PCC. You will find all you want. Just be prepared to pay the prince.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meatwad View Post
    Same thing with Soy.
    Since soy is popular with the natural foods crowd, finding soy-free stuff is even harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universal_Soldier View Post
    That's a common misunderstanding.......How about cellulosic ethanol? Not all bio-fuels come from edible stuff you know.
    Cellulose ethanol is not widely available because it is not yet economically viable. It has great future potential, though.
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    Blame the bureaucracy and the lobbyists that are hell bent on profiteering rather than basic economics.
    Human nature is a bitch.

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    Thank God.

    Maybe we can actually use real sugar in our sodas now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix1 View Post

    Maybe we can actually use real sugar in our sodas now.
    Doubt it. Corn Syrup including the whole manufacturing process might still be cheaper and Corn crops can really take a beating.

    I would almost take a bet that these evil companies can wager a cheaper price for their corn, if in fact, they are not the best crop. If you and I won't buy the corn at market value then those cash who have cash can offer a cheaper alternative. Point being, you will see a slight increase in price.

    118F in Norton Dam, Kansas on Thursday. Damn.

    We have had quite the hot weather. I like it, as long as the humidity stays down. Luckily most of the Wheat has been harvested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by American Caesar View Post
    Watch for the price of milk to go up too. If the price of grain goes up to feed the dairy cows the dairy farmers price the cost to the dairies and then to you.
    The price of a whole lot of foods are going to go up more than they otherwise would have because of higher grain prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbonrod View Post
    Glad to hear.
    Except that they aren't the only thing you get from corn.
    Many cheering this because of a potential downfall of HFCS or ethanol may find their celebrations short-lived when the price of everything else goes up through the roof.

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