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Schrödinger's cat experiment
If nobody peeks into the box, is the cat dead, alive, neither, or both?
If a video camera records the event and stores it on an external disk, is the outcome already determined or only when somebody observes the video?
If only an animal observes the experiment, is the outcome determined at that time or does that only apply to human observers?
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Is it time for one of these threads again?
Hey if there is an airplane on a treadmill.......
Originally Posted by Beowulf
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For a video camera to record the outcome, it must interact with it and collapse the wave form. Photons or some other sub atomic particle must be released and recorded for you to 'observe', thus the outcome (state) is changed at that moment. The same applies with an animal.If nobody peeks into the box, is the cat dead, alive, neither, or both?
If a video camera records the event and stores it on an external disk, is the outcome already determined or only when somebody observes the video?
If only an animal observes the experiment, is the outcome determined at that time or does that only apply to human observers?
Just some random thought farts
The act of observing with an instrument (biological or otherwise) changes the quantum state of the particles you are observing, and thus untangles those objects (the gun and the cat are entangled and in wave form when unobserved, but observing collapses the wave form and untangles the gun and the cat, putting it in an either-or state. Also this is why when you look at people on earth they don't appear in wave form, since the atmosphere is interacting with them and collapsing the wave form. It doesnt have to be HUMAN interaction).
What is weirder is that even if you observe the cat after the fact, ie, you delay the observation, it will go back in time and make the gun fire or not fire. (google Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser Experiment, the implications are that observing a quantum state after the fact collapses the wave form at that time, ie, in the past).
Last edited by DaveDash; 06-30-2012 at 03:26 AM.
Dang Dave, what are you a physic's teacher?
Too much of retconned theories just to solve a paradox equation. The science is in decline at the moment, IMO.
Oh and the plane won't take off, unless its propulsion is able to displace enough of air volume to keep the plane vertically without touching the ground keeping zero inertia moment (it's to portray it in simpler words, equation is a bit more complex), which is the case only in a small number of (usually) military fighters with afterburners and sht.
Hell no
Just a hobbyist.
Has anyone ever reported this Schrodinger to PETA?
Also, if the experiment requires you to put in the box a poison vial linked to radiation detector and a source of radiation, then the answer is, "the cat is dead" because background radiation would set the detector off, every time. From which we can deduce that Schrodinger was a cat hating Socio-path, determined to kill as many cats as he could, with his mind. This is NOT the sort of man you want playing around with nuclear physics!
If a tree falls in the forest. . .
Isn´t Schrödingers cat experiment just a way to tell people that the understanding and theorie in quantum physics is somewhat lacking at the moment. It just shows that with the current theorie the cat can be dead and alive at the same time, which is logicaly not possible.
There is a lot quantum physics can "do" without being logically possible, doesn't mean it is wrong.
Quantum physics > human brain.
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