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    Default China to spend 60 billion USD on the research of jet engines related topics

    China now set up a state-funded research project on Jet engine related technologies.The project is of the highest-level of priority, join the very exclusive club of projects called "major science and techs development projects" of China, which means it can basically access to unlimited amount of resource if needed.

    The initial capital of the project is 370 billion RMB, which is already much higher than the cost of J-20 project until now (20 billion RMB) or the total cost of the manned space mission so far (30 billion RMB).

    The research project works like some open research funds, welcome any scholars from the state-owned research insistue or a selected number of universities and colleges to apply their sponsorships for research topics within the specific research area.
    http://mil.huanqiu.com/china/2012-06/2854499.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodguy View Post
    China now set up a state-funded research project on Jet engine related technologies.The project is of the highest-level of priority, join the very exclusive club of projects called "major science and techs development projects" of China, which means it can basically access to unlimited amount of resource if needed.

    The initial capital of the project is 370 billion RMB, which is already much higher than the cost of J-20 project until now (20 billion RMB) or the total cost of the manned space mission so far (30 billion RMB).

    The research project works like some open research funds, welcome any scholars from the state-owned research insistue or a selected number of universities and colleges to apply their sponsorships for research topics within the specific research area.
    http://mil.huanqiu.com/china/2012-06/2854499.html
    Where did you get that number from? Thanks in advance!

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    Makes sense, jet engines are one key technical field china is still decades behind US, Russia and Europe... with todays computer power, simulation and development tools it wont take long...

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    From the market insiders, lol, the news will go to public soon, this is the gold time to buy some jet-engine related stocks in China lol:

    http://page.renren.com/601047135/fdoing

    http://guba.eastmoney.com/look,000738,3015065265.html

    Anyway it has to be passed by the national congress before annoucement, but we all should know there will be little problem lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodguy View Post
    From the market insiders, lol, the news will go to public soon, this is the gold time to buy some jet-engine related stocks in China lol:

    http://page.renren.com/601047135/fdoing

    http://guba.eastmoney.com/look,000738,3015065265.html

    Anyway it has to be passed by the national congress before annoucement, but we all should know there will be little problem lol.
    Yeah, I laughed out loud at your sources of information, too.

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    Maybe they will finaly be able to produce a 4th generation engine in a decade or so.

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    In one thread you say that China spent $5 billion on the manned space program over a period of 10 years, and in this thread you say $60 billion...(based on some anonymous "market insiders" that you found in forums. Not even from a news source.). I hope you can understand how some people might think this is just a little too far-fetched. Just a little

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    Check the top material science journal like acta materialia etc, now Chinese authors contributed 1/2 of the articles published, I do think the breakingthrough of jet engine will be soon, especially considering the new age jet engine working in hyper mach conditions can be totally different to current turbinefan engines, and employing more and more cermaic-based composites, so there wont be much catching-up work to do for China, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodguy View Post
    Check the top material science journal like acta materialia etc, now Chinese authors contributed 1/2 of the articles published, I do think the breakingthrough of jet engine will be soon, especially considering the new age jet engine working in hyper mach conditions can be totally different to current turbinefan engines, and employing more and more cermaic-based composites, so there wont be much catching-up work to do for China, lol.
    Yes, I saw many Chinese names there. But "1/2" ? Well, take a look yourself: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/13596454

    Again, just a little too far-fetched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plato View Post
    Yes, I saw many Chinese names there. But "1/2" ? Well, take a look yourself: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/13596454

    Again, just a little too far-fetched.
    In the link you provided, there are 31 articles there, 17 out of the 31 articles here looks to get a Chinese author as the first author, so thanks for proving my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeiJoa View Post
    Makes sense, jet engines are one key technical field china is still decades behind US, Russia and Europe... with todays computer power, simulation and development tools it wont take long...
    Not too far behind with Airbus having a factory there, hehehehe. Ask Vestas what happened when it opened a factory there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravosixniner View Post
    Not too far behind with Airbus having a factory there, hehehehe. Ask Vestas what happened when it opened a factory there...
    Its not a factory, it's an assembly line. You don't build hot sections of jet engines because you want to. It took Rolls Royce more than 70 years to get it done properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodguy View Post
    Check the top material science journal like acta materialia etc, now Chinese authors contributed 1/2 of the articles published, I do think the breakingthrough of jet engine will be soon, especially considering the new age jet engine working in hyper mach conditions can be totally different to current turbinefan engines, and employing more and more cermaic-based composites, so there wont be much catching-up work to do for China, lol.
    Can you name one Chinese-made jet engine that is a commercial success as of today and has beaten its competitors in international tenders?

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    Materials and know how are jelously guarded secrets - China will have to re-invent the wheel for many components simply because no-one is going to be willing to share information with a potential competitor who can price them out of a market in time. Thats why they need a huge budget. Europe should really be taking this very seriously and start making alliances especially in areas of R&D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimera View Post
    Can you name one Chinese-made jet engine that is a commercial success as of today and has beaten its competitors in international tenders?
    I think when I mention hyper sonic and cermaic-based materials, we all know we are talking about military jet engines, and for military jet engines, WS-10 is the first step, WS-15 is the next step, France doesnt have a high-thrust military jet engine now, let along a competive one, btw.

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