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    Default The Nazi Titanic (History docu & film)

    I just watched the History documentary called "The Nazi Titanic" about the German wartime propaganda movie "Titanic" (without Leo & Kate). which was a monumental project costing around $180mln in todays currency.

    I thought it is a highly interesting documentary... so I'll just leave it here.

    The film itself I have not watched... but as it is also available on Youtube you can also find the link here.


    The Nazi Titanic (History)


    Titanic (1943)

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    Did they blame the sinking on Mr. Iceberg?

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    No it is largely evil capitalists.
    The movie isn't bad in regards to effects and except for the weird construct of the lead guy having to be german, the crew and lower classes are the good guys and the capitalists are the bad guys.

    Interestingly it was largely shot on the Cap Arcona, which later was sunk with Concentration Camp prisoners aboard by RAF Typhoons.

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    Well it was intended as an anti British propaganda film.. so the owner of the White Star line is portrayed as a capitalist and greedy guy only concerned about his companies stocks and share value etc. With a German crew member being be hero who knows everything about the dangers of icebergs etc The funny thing is.. as is also mentioned in the documentary. The owner can be seen as a portrait of Hitler... and the German hero is someone who is just following orders without acting against the authority despite proving all the time that he knows better. That is why the film - despite being a prestige object for Goebbels himself was banned in Germany and only shown in occupied territories.


    The documentary itself though focusses on the making of the film and mostly Goebbels and the director and the screenwriter of the film. The director himself was arrested during filming after he said something like "F*ck the Wehrmacht" etc during an argument with his screenwriter who also was his best friend who then reported this ... shortly after his arrest the director was found hanged in his cell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    Did they blame the sinking on Mr. Iceberg?
    Iceberg, Greenberg, Goldberg, it was all the same to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    Did they blame the sinking on Mr. Iceberg?
    The English crew members, IIRC.

    edit: JCR beat me to it

    I believe some of the scenes were recycled in the British "A Night to Remember"

    Interesting that it wasn't shown in Germany. I don't know if it was a blockbuster, but I think it was a hit where it was shown outside Germany.

    Interesting story, I just learned about it recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt-Col A. Tack View Post
    The English crew members, IIRC.

    I believe some of the scenes were recycled in the British "A Night to Remember"
    Nope.
    On Bruce Ismay, J.J. Astor etc.
    On the Capitalists.
    The English crew members were portrayed as brave people actually.

    The Titanic film is, weirdly enough, one of the few UFA films that were regularly shown on german TV.
    It still is aired occasionally, I think.
    90% of all UFA films were never shown postwar and I have no idea why Titanic was different.
    Normally the UFA films that are shown are the absolute classics like Quax der Bruchpilot, Feuerzangenbowle and other Heinz Rühmann films.
    Perhaps because it was banned in WW2 Germany?
    Btw, my mother was named after the leading actress in the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt-Col A. Tack View Post
    I believe some of the scenes were recycled in the British "A Night to Remember"

    According to the documentary they were (some exterior shots of the ship that is)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCR View Post
    Nope.
    On Bruce Ismay, J.J. Astor etc.
    On the Capitalists.
    The English crew members were portrayed as brave people actually.
    Oops, I stand corrected.

    The Titanic film is, weirdly enough, one of the few UFA films that were regularly shown on german TV.
    It still is aired occasionally, I think.
    90% of all UFA films were never shown postwar and I have no idea why Titanic was different.
    Normally the UFA films that are shown are the absolute classics like Quax der Bruchpilot, Feuerzangenbowle and other Heinz Rühmann films.
    Perhaps because it was banned in WW2 Germany?
    Btw, my mother was named after the leading actress in the movie.
    Very cool, sir.

    I may need to see if I can find the other films you mentioned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Reader View Post
    According to the documentary they were (some exterior scenes of the ship that is)
    From the documentary, the SS Cap Arcona looked to be a very nice looking ship.

    It sounds like the model was huge (20 feet or something like that?)

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    how is this in this section when the film is simply a german version of the events ,, tbh imo there is nowt Nazi about it ...

    just another remake that people are simply looking to say it's something ...else offcourse will assume i'm taking sides .. but if u watch the film for what it is .. all it is just another remake nothing more

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    The film was kind of very mainstream that is correct. And the intended message was rather main stream as well - capitalism evil, join us we have cookies, err socialism (in theory and on paper).

    Besides the fact that it was a propaganda film the intend was to have a blockbuster that rivals the big Hollywood blockbusters as Goebbels seems to have had quite an obsession with wanting to be better than Hollywood. So the film needed a certain mass appeal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timetraveller View Post
    how is this in this section when the film is simply a german version of the events ,, tbh imo there is nowt Nazi about it ...

    just another remake that people are simply looking to say it's something ...else offcourse will assume i'm taking sides .. but if u watch the film for what it is .. all it is just another remake nothing more
    Bit slow on the uptake when it comes to the subject of "Propaganda" aren't you T.T.

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