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Thread: PolitiFact: Health care law is not the largest tax increase ever

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    Default PolitiFact: Health care law is not the largest tax increase ever


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    President Obama told George Stephanopoulos it wasn't a tax and that Stephanopoulos was "stretching" when asked about it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    President Obama told George Stephanopoulos it wasn't a tax and that Stephanopoulos was "stretching" when asked about it.
    Obama lied.

    That being said, conservatives/Republicans are wrong when they say that it is "the largest tax increase in American history".

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    I dont get this post. Does it have to be the 'biggest' tax increase to qualify as a bad idea? Obamacare is a bad idea from inception, no matter how high the taxes imposed are from historical standpoint.

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    I just watched that interview...quite painful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamazz View Post
    I dont get this post.
    To show that conservatives/Republicans are wrong when they assert that it is the biggest tax increase in American history.

    Whether or not Obamacare is a good or bad idea is not the point of the thread.

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    The analogy with auto insurance is just wrong. A person can always choose not to have a car/drive.

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    It is easy to manipulate stats this way. The dollar amount makes Obamacare the largest tax in history, so you recast it as percentage of GNP to get the desired result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herp McDerp View Post
    To show that conservatives/Republicans are wrong when they assert that it is the biggest tax increase in American history.

    Whether or not Obamacare is a good or bad idea is not the point of the thread.
    So if I just beat your ass, it would be ok because it wasn't the worst ass kicking you ever got?
    P!ss off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    It is easy to manipulate stats this way. The dollar amount makes Obamacare the largest tax in history, so you recast it as percentage of GNP to get the desired result.
    Shhhh.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    It is easy to manipulate stats this way. The dollar amount makes Obamacare the largest tax in history, so you recast it as percentage of GNP to get the desired result.
    From the link...

    On top of that, it doesn't make sense to compare 2019 dollars to 1985 dollars. You have to adjust for inflation, or express the amount as a total of Gross Domestic Product at the time, which is a way to measure the relative impact of a tax provision at the time it was enacted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shermbodius View Post
    So if I just beat your ass, it would be ok because it wasn't the worst ass kicking you ever got?
    P!ss off!
    Why are you so adamant about making the topic of this thread over Obamacare being bad? I agree with you, it is bad.

    But that's not the topic of this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herp McDerp View Post
    Why are you so adamant about making the topic of this thread over Obamacare being bad? I agree with you, it is bad.

    But that's not the topic of this thread.
    This thread is coming off as trolling that is why. I appologize for the ambush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shermbodius View Post
    This thread is coming off as trolling that is why. I appologize for the ambush.
    Everyone is wrong sometimes, in this case people who think that Obamacare is the biggest tax increase in American history. I don't see how pointing that out can be considered as trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herp McDerp View Post
    From the link...
    Neither does it make any sense to cast the tax as a percentage of GNP. Instead, simply list all those tax increases in the chart in inflation-adjusted dollars. That would be the most honest comparison, and is the standard method we always see. It makes one wonder why the author of the chart chose that bizarre method instead. Could it have something to do with the desired outcomes I spoke of?

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