Reply With Quotegreat idea and good on ACLU for protecting citizens rights.
N.J. ACLU unveils 'stealth' app allowing citizens to secretly record police
great idea and good on ACLU for protecting citizens rights.
Cool. Cops can be ****s.
I had one cop pat down and search me for no reason, and when I argued with him for my rights and that he didn't have a probable cause warranting a search, he got all pissed and threatened me with disturbing the peace... by "loudly" arguing with him in a residential neighborhood. He was the one that started to raise his voice. He didn't find sh!t and when I pointed this out to him he called me a "sh!thead punk". Eh, LAPD, the nations finest.
Wish I could have had that app at the time.
I'm sure a number of cops could chime in and say... "Cool, citizens can be ignorant dumb****s".Originally Posted by Impartial Bias
You may have had a bad cop that day but I find it hard to believe he was decided to "pat you down and search you for no reason".
It's bad enough that everybody has a cell phone these days to record video at the most convenient time. Now we have apps that record secretly.. I don't agree with it but if you feel the need to have it, go for it, but cops are not out to bust your chops.
What I don't get is that cops can be normal people instead of asses with a sense of superiority. We like to have a go at smart people who lord over you and never tell you even if you ask nicely because they love feeling superior. But cops apparently are safe. Even if legal there is no reason why they shouldn't be obliged to calmly explain to the people they are trying to protect to prevent misunderstandings.
I can see how dealing with pissed off people being d1cks all day can sour your attitude and create an 'us and them' outlook. But that is no excuse for the officer being a d1ck.
I respect law enforcement wholeheartedly. But there are "bad apples" that go out of their way to start trouble over nonsensical stuff. I had a friend who was being interrogated by a cop because of a college dorm chair belonging to him was out in the hallway. After my friend denied any knowledge (because it was probably his roommate's shenanigans), the cop called backup on him; this was all over a misplaced chair. The cop continued to bully my friend and eventually he lost interest.
Fortunately, someone recorded the confrontation and the cop was suspended.
I fully support recordings of police activity; it's a two-edged sword of accountability. It prevents police from being abusive and it also silences those idiots who cry "police brutality!" if an officer lies a finger on them.
Maybe you're just a shithead punk.
I don't have problems with the police.
It may be his perfume.
Yeah, but generally a cop is a person that should be protecting people's rights, not violating them. You search someone, you have to have a probable cause warranting you to do that. If I had committed a crime, then he would have had probable cause and that would warrant him searching me. He had absolutely no reason to search me. The only thing I conceivably did wrong was be in a bad neighborhood, but all of Hollywood is pretty much a bad neighborhood, so how did he come to specifically point me out.
If people feel that their rights are being violated, then they have a right to record incidents like this. I think it's a good thing that everyone has access to a video recording device, it's another way to make sure that cops follow the law. Many cops feel that they are above the law. When he searched me, it's notable to mention that he took me to the back of his cruiser, so I wasn't on his dashboard cam. Off topic, but my Uncle used to work for the city as a mechanic. The PD had him install illegal lights, sirens, and back light switch offs for them. This is a big no-no in California. When he questioned the police chief about it, he basically said "I choose which rules to follow". 3 years later the city gets sued and fined when a car crashes into the back of a cruiser because he had his breaklights and headlights switched off while snooping through a neighborhood.
Also, I'd recommend you live in East Hollywood a couple years, and then make an opinion of the police force. We have a reputation for having a horrible police force.
Maybe you don't live in East Hollywood and know about our police force...?
I see no problem with any kind of recording in a public setting. Folks are fond of saying law abiding citizens have nothing to fear from the law, well it works both ways. Honest cops have nothing to fear from accountability.
It doesn't matter. Everyone and his brother on this forum has a "cops are assholes" story. I was a cop and I probably have a lot more than you do. Some cops are assholes. So are some teachers, plumbers, firemen and even *gasp* Navy SEALs...I suppose with cops, it's a personality issue, coupled with dealing with skells, dirtbags, mopes, the mentally ill, the woefully ignorant, the criminally insane, the street corner lawyers, the hysterical, the stupid, the sh*thead punks, and the evil.
Read up on the1968 case Terry v. Ohio, "suspicion" is different from "probable cause". There's also the "make sure this dink isn't going to stab me while reaching for his wallet" factor.
Back to the topic, every d*ckhead that's getting arrested, or detained, or even questioned by the cops now "feels" they are precious, unique, snowflakes and they are being treated unfairly and their "rights" are being violated.
I'm sorry that you live in a Quentin Tarantino movie and that all the cops there are scary and out to get you.
Seemed appropriate.
You are living proof that cops are nothing but sweethearts.
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