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    Default Three or four dead in German hostage-taking: police

    Karlsruhe. Three or four people were killed after a gunman took people hostage during a home eviction in southwestern Germany Wednesday, police said, AFP reported.
    A police spokesman said the hostage-taker and all his hostages were dead after he barricaded himself and them into an apartment block in the city of Karlsruhe.
    http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n282217

    According to reports he was a licensed hunter and legally owned several weapons.
    (and according to an eyewitness also had a hand grenade)
    It was actually the home eviction of his girlfriend / wife
    The hostages were the baliff carrying out the eviction, a locksmith and a helper it seems.

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    Here it was mentioned just some time ago only one possible dead.

    RIP to the victims.

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    A fifth body has been found. RIP to the victims.

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    First pics from the scene:
















    RiP to the victims...

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    The fifth victim is a woman - so probably the wife/gf of the hostage taker.
    The "helper" of the baliff that also has been killed might have been the new owner of the apartment it seems according to some reports.
    All victims have been shot.

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    News about this incident seem to be very confusing at the moment.

    The SWR reports that the police stormed the apartment when they feared the apartment was burning. If that happened before or after everyone inside was dead is not known.

    Rest in Peace.
    Unfortunately it didn't end well, as opposed to so many other situations.
    Last edited by Steak-Sauce; 07-04-2012 at 08:00 AM. Reason: like changed into opposed to for clarification

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    Sad event. The outcome calls for inevitable armchair experts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b0sco View Post
    Sad event. The outcome calls for inevitable armchair experts.
    they already arrived:

    Commentary section in the "Zeit": http://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/zeit...iselnahme-tote

    main topics: - privately owned guns, - and the bankers get billions, but these poors bastards..., - hunters as such

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    Quote Originally Posted by variable View Post
    First pics from the scene:

    This pic is not from the scene but an older pic from February 2011.
    http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9...0223pol032.jpg
    http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4...0223pol031.jpg



    More pics from the scene:


    Police arrive at the area where a gunman took hostages in Karlsruhe, Germany, Wednesday July 4, 2012. A gunman in southern Germany took hostages and fired shots, possibly killing one person, when court bailiffs sought to remove him from his apartment Wednesday morning in a dispute over rent, police said.

    Policemen stand in the area where a gunman had taken several people, including a bailiff, hostage during a home eviction in Karlsruhe, southwestern Germany, on July 4, 2012. A police spokesman said the hostage-taker and all his hostages were dead after he barricaded himself and them into an apartment block in the city of Karlsruhe.

    Police officers are pictured during a hostage-taking situation in Karlsruhe July 4, 2012. Four people, possibly including a gunman, were killed during a hostage taking incident at a house in southern Germany on Wednesday, according to a police spokesman.

    Police officers are pictured after a hostage-taking incident in Karlsruhe July 4, 2012. Four people, probably including a gunman, were killed during a hostage-taking incident at a house in southern Germany on Wednesday, a police spokesman said.
    RiP to the victims.

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    Thanks for the correction. It popped up doing google pic search. Weird.

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    Tragic.

    May the innocent victims + Rest In Peace +

    Sympathy & Condolences to their Families & Friends.

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    Default Germany: Five die in dramatic gun siege

    German gunman 'kills hostages in Karlsruhe eviction'


    The area around the block was sealed off by police

    A gunman and four hostages have died after a siege in the German city of Karlsruhe, police say.
    The man, facing eviction for not paying his rent, had barricaded himself in his flat with the hostages.
    After smelling smoke, police stormed the flat where they found the bodies. All five are said to have died of gunshot wounds.
    As well as the gunman, a bailiff and a locksmith died, along with the flat-owner and a prospective tenant.
    The hostage-taking began when officials arrived on Wednesday morning to evict a man from a block of flats in the city in south-west Germany.
    At about 09:00 local time (07:00 GMT), several shots rang out and police were called.
    An area around the block in the Nordstadt area was sealed off and hundreds of police officers were deployed. A school and a kindergarten nearby were evacuated.
    The BBC's Stephen Evans in Berlin says it is unclear whether or not police had made contact with the hostage-taker before the shootings.
    'Thick smoke' "Special forces broke into the apartment after smelling smoke," a police spokesman told ******* news agency.
    German media said that initially four bodies, including the gunman, were discovered in the flat on the top floor of the building. It then emerged that a woman's body had also been found.
    She was thought to be the hostage-taker's partner, unconfirmed reports said.
    The smoke was so thick in the flat that "you couldn't see your hand in front of your eyes", a police spokesman was quoted as saying.
    Police believed the gunman was a hunter who possessed several weapons.
    "I am deeply shocked by the deaths of five people, including a bailiff working as a justice official for Karlsruhe district court," Baden-Wuerttemberg's Justice Minister Rainer Stickelberger said, according to Bild website. It was an "incomprehensible act," he added.
    Good God.
    May the innocent victims rest in peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muck View Post
    Good God.
    May the innocent victims rest in peace.
    x2........

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    Rest in Peace

    My sympathy and condolences to their families and friends

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    as i read at Turkish news a Turkish couple (woman was pregnant) lost their life too :/ Rest in Peace to innocent victims may God rest their souls :/

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