Once again Mexico's electoral fraud

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The people march against the imposition of EPN PRI's candidate.
Mexico city

Outside of televisa Mexico city

Guerrero Acapulco

Aguascalientes

Cancun

Chihuahua

Guadalajara

Guanajuato

Manzanillo Colima

Monterrey

Oaxaca

Playa del carmen

Puebla

Queretaro

Chiapas, Sancristobal de las casas


San luis potosi

Sonora

Tabasco

Tijuana

Tlaxcala

Villa hermosa

Yucatan

Celaya

Jalapa
and the only incident happend in that city. When and armed Person pointed the gun at the poeople protesting.

The subject of "Youth Dynamics" of the PRI governor of Veracruz, Javier Duarte, who threatened to young people who marched in the streets against the imposition of EPN.

the support in other countrys

Stockholm Sweden

Madrid Spain

Monte real

Munich

Norway

New York

Vancouver Canada


"Cuando el rio suena, agua lleva"

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another questiong,what was the reason obrador sayd the previous elections where fraud too?
cuz once again,if he sayd the previous elections wehre fraud them why run for president again?
was there a recount of votes too?
cuz if he runs into elections again them that means he recognized the previous elections isnt it?

and why keep posting those pics instead of more "proof"?

your behaviour is very similiar to the same leftist propaganda that I have seem,the more you try the less trust you generate
and saying obrador was your favorite candidate is not surprise

and funny how small the diference of votes ended up considering the supposed millions of votes bought by the pri,and that the supposed millions of votes count are 5,exactly the same to beat the votes gained by nieto,how interesting......

and when are you going to post denounces of fraud made by someone other thant the 132 movemente people? where is the denounces of the pan party? and the other parties?

so go and wear a che tshirt and get a ak47 cuz probably thats the next thing obrador will tell you to do

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if you need to know the situation of Mexico. You once mention Read a history book, well I would recomend the same. So you could understand the enviroment of political cultural situation of Mexico. If your still unclear come to the country, submerge yourself in the culture.

Apart from the many inconsistencies ( 2 million 581 thousand 226). When they did the recount instead of counting votes they started to count how many federal crimes there were. Fox President openly supported his Felipe Calderon,Mexican Federal Law prohibits the intervention of the President to favor any political candidate. (and he did it publicaly ). Mexican Federal prohibits all of that (articulo 38 inciso b.)
around 80% of the conputed vote Obrador decline almost symmetrically as Calderon began to rise,(grafica espejo) which you could look up because" Universal" posted it. Remember the votes are independent of each other (Calderon and Obrador) a vote for PRD is independent from the vote of PAN and PRI. But in the graph there is a corolation of 99.98% which cannot be.

Why run for President well unlike many other politicians he is one who actually does do things withing stablish Mexican Law. He is in his right to called fraud. For the many inconsistencies that happend, the buying of votes. etc. It surprises me that he is actually doing all this withing Mexican Law, anyother candidate from the opposition would of buy the candidacy oh wait it did happend. Look I posted evidence which you could check yourself if you dont believe me. The pictures of the electeral count and comparing the irregularities, the buying of votes, and showed videos of before and after when people were protesting that they didnt get paid for their votes. the threating of who to vote for and who not to, the burning of ballots, the robing of ballot boxes. etc. if you need to know more I personally invite you to Mexico, tomorrow ill be leaving for Juchitan Oaxaca, but next week ill be back in the state of Hidalgo I Invite you to come to Mexico so you could see first hand whats going on in Mexico. you'll be given hospitality in My house ill pick you up In Mexico city to. But by 1st of next month I need to go back to my University in the state of Veracruz to start my classes I have a house there that im renting which I also invite you.

Why keep posting those pictures. well firts like I mention before cause and effect. second to see the magnitude of the cituation in Mexico that it isnt just the 132 movement which I dont think you know what it is, but besides that its all the people who are not even afiliated with any organization, party. And as you could see these Marches that took place on the 7 were made all over the country and abroad. This is also a testimony of how many people know that the election is a fraud that the major tv networks are sell outs and comply with corruption to protect their interest.

I never said that my favorite candidate was Obrador, my candidate of choice was him. But tell me what do you know about the history of Mexico about the Political enviroment here? What is it that you dont trust the political candidate from the left? is it because is that he is from the left ? do you know how the yo soy 131 started?
those are a couple of questions of mine to you.

again I ask where did you get that information that is was a small diference? -wether if it was a small or large diference of vote buying it was stablish did they did do that which its still fraud do you not agree? Again dont flatter yourself that I would think its a small difference because it wasent.
where did you get the information that his party dosent even support him?

again Obrador never convoke the 131 or the now known 132 movement to march for him. I read in a card that a student was holding we are not from the left nor from the right were from the bottom and were coming from those at the top. Like I mention before Mexican independence was not For Hidalgo, the Mexican revolution was not for Madero it was for the idea to create a better nation. it was to stop the hierarchy, to stop the re-election to stop the sell out of the land. to stop the corruption.

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and you sayd the magic words of the media being controlled by the evil govemrent and not showing anything about the protest and such and etc,that same propaganda tactic has been used by tons of leftist groups,allways attacking the media to make the people not watch it and only watch theyr own "unbiased" media,the more you post the more you look like that

and is bull**** that thing of the yosoy132 being not partidist,cuz tons of leftist sites like prochavez telesur mention it a lot,and I have seem them using a very similiar modus operando to the propaganda those people use,but yeah that doesnt mean a crap to you cuz you have already the brain tweaked by them and will only follow and obey that propaganda mindlessly
cuz believe that media should not be trusted,those "alternative" obviously left leaning media like telesur are not to be trusted,but as I sayd you will just do the oposite
you had the luxury of not living in a country dominated by the likes of chavez and company,and now you got brainwashed by theyr propaganda of "power to da people" and the like,and now supporting theyr candidate which looks more and more like the tipical prochavez bunch
is obviously not a coincidence that every site about the yosoy132 shows some support to obrador,the sites you posted do show it

and next you will say the ife or whatever is named the electoral departmen is sided with peña nieto too,despite them being actively looking into those irregularities form what I have seem

cuz again,if obrador is supposed to be the "only" (how interesting,so that means no other candidate follows the laws?) candidate thatfolows the legal way them,again why he didnt do something else during the past elections? or why didnt he asked this elections to not happens until the doubts of the previous ones where cleared?
but no instead he just jumped straight to it after so many acussations of fraud and now he is claiming fraud again

and you dont fool me says you are not pro obrador,you speak of him the same way a supporter would do,using the same words those leftist do,I know your kind and can spot it easily

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and you sayd the magic words of the media being controlled by the evil govemrent and not showing anything about the protest and such and etc,that same propaganda tactic has been used by tons of leftist groups,allways attacking the media to make the people not watch it and only watch theyr own "unbiased" media,the more you post the more you look like that

and is bull**** that thing of the yosoy132 being not partidist,cuz tons of leftist sites like prochavez telesur mention it a lot,and I have seem them using a very similiar modus operando to the propaganda those people use,but yeah that doesnt mean a crap to you cuz you have already the brain tweaked by them and will only follow and obey that propaganda mindlessly
cuz believe that media should not be trusted,those "alternative" obviously left leaning media like telesur are not to be trusted,but as I sayd you will just do the oposite
you had the luxury of not living in a country dominated by the likes of chavez and company,and now you got brainwashed by theyr propaganda of "power to da people" and the like,and now supporting theyr candidate which looks more and more like the tipical prochavez bunch
is obviously not a coincidence that every site about the yosoy132 shows some support to obrador,the sites you posted do show it

and next you will say the ife or whatever is named the electoral departmen is sided with peña nieto too,despite them being actively looking into those irregularities form what I have seem

cuz again,if obrador is supposed to be the "only" (how interesting,so that means no other candidate follows the laws?) candidate thatfolows the legal way them,again why he didnt do something else during the past elections? or why didnt he asked this elections to not happens until the doubts of the previous ones where cleared?
but no instead he just jumped straight to it after so many acussations of fraud and now he is claiming fraud again

and you dont fool me says you are not pro obrador,you speak of him the same way a supporter would do,using the same words those leftist do,I know your kind and can spot it easily

Same propaganda tactic. Ok then what els should I call on it on how it is? because the Media didnt report after it, I was In Mexico city on the 7th when the march took place, the Major tv networks that we know that they conspire were not there. That same day an actor was getting maried in Mexico city, Televisa was convering that but not the march, so alot of people headed over there to protest and get the media's attention. Later Universal reported on this story. Actor said that it was sad that this had to happend during his weeding, but he supported the movement ( against EPN) and confirm that he himself did not vote for him. I really doubt that you know anything about "Yo Soy 132 movement" one of their proposal's is that they demanded that the Media didnt favor any Political candidate. Which the Major TV networks didnt respect. When the movement started they call on the medias "Bu// $h1t. But as you can see is that im not posting alternative Media I also posted and other members posted that CNN, TImes, BBC, France 24etc.

One thing is that Pro chavez telsur reports on the story or on them and saying that, they themself support the chavez regime. $h1t CNN reports on them so what? follow propaganda mindlessly really like if were in the U.S. and watching Mexico from the outside. Im currently In Mexico I see whats happening im not following any propaganda I saw the fraud take place first hand. Thats Why I ask of you, Ifyou want to come down here pass me your info. ill pick you up.


Please answear My questions

I never said that my favorite candidate was Obrador, my candidate of choice was him. But tell me what do you know about the history of Mexico about the Political enviroment here? What is it that you dont trust the political candidate from the left? is it because is that he is from the left ? do you know how the yo soy 131 started?
those are a couple of questions of mine to you.

Never ever did I say only one who fallow the laws, this is what I said:"well unlike many other politicians he is one who actually does do things withing stablish Mexican Law."
Tell me where did you get that I Said he is the only politician? He did do something but its to long to post here, so READ ABOUT IT, carefully we dont want you to bad interpritate another way like it has happend here many times ^

REMEMBER MEXICO IS NOT VENENZUELA, sorry that chavez cause you that trauma.

here are some reports.

LEGALLY anulable 2012 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION


"ohn Ackerman Institute for Legal Research of UNAM explains how and why the last presidential election (2012) are legally voidable. Stresses that the recent statements of anticipated Alejandro Luna, president of the Federal Electoral Tribunal are extremely irresponsible. Enormously irresponsible too, says Ackerman, is the statements of Leonardo Valdez president of the IFE. Both deny in advance and clear disgrace to the institutions that are already pioneering Mexican democracy, the ability to enforce the Constitution which in Article 41 says that "Mexicans have the right to vote and be voted in freedom." That freedom has never existed nor fully defended by the institutions concerned, nor secured the right to information. The eleccciones are infested with irregularities. They are stained with dirt and must be annulled. If the IFE and Trife refuse this time enforce the constitution, it will cause permanent damage to democracy in Mexico. What is at stake is not only decide the future of the country over the next six years. The $h1t hits or committing magistrates have implications for the next 3 or 4 decades. The situation we are facing is extremely serious, but what the bulk of the Mexican people realize."



"This video of BBC News and an article on their website show the interest of large international chains civic insurrection against electoral fraud that the July 7, 2012 exploded on the streets of Mexico. A collective struggle has barely begun and that will not go unnoticed in the rest of the world.


The text of BBC News says that "tens of thousands in Mexico City protest against the outcome of the presidential election, which was won by Enrique Peña Nieto.


The protesters, who are not necessarily linked to any party, say the vote was unfair."





National Action Party of Mexico said that presidential elections will struggle


Peña Nieto received support from drug trafficking according to Proceso magazine

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If Monex, yes there will be coordination with the PRD: PAN
http://www.animalpolitico.com/2012/0...on-el-prd-pan/

"The PAN's national president, Gustavo Madero said that although the party will not accompany Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador to request the annulment of the presidential election, they will join the PRD to seek punishment for cases such as Monex and three where identified irregularities.


"On special measures, such as Monex, then yes we will coordinate with the PRD to track, but they are on the four themes identified irregularities PAN: managing illicit resources via cards Banco Monex is one of them. The management surveys and agreements of the media is the other issue and the governors who were directly involved in resource management and social programs in support of any legislator or candidate.


"These are the topics that we already presented, the PAN and resources directly presented and challenges and give them up. We are ready to follow up with the PRD in these particular issues, the annulment of the election is an issue of the PRD and we will respect, "he said.


No items to challenge


Moreover, PAN national leader said his party lacks the elements that justify the use to challenge and seek the annulment of the elections, but said, respects the decision of the Progressive Movement coalition and its presidential candidate, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador.


Madero Muñoz said the third place on the ballot received the PAN presidential candidate, Josefina Vazquez Mota, does not give grounds for filing an action for annulment of the elections on July 1.


Interviewed following a private meeting with candidates elected deputies and senators insisted that the PAN "we have the elements that justify a general challenge to the election of the President of the Republic."


Please do not return to the PRI


He denied that the decision of the National Action not to contest the presidential process is "giving back a favor to the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI)" because it supported the inauguration of President Felipe Calderon Hinojosa in 2006.


In the current electoral process, he said, there are features to challenge as "irregularities accredited to be awarded, but not to reverse the election results in our view, but we respect that the PRD and Andrés Manuel (Lopez Obrador) will do and will respect decisions reached by the Electoral Tribunal. "


Continue until 2013


For meetings that began to review the situation of the party, said that is considering a relaunch of the PAN because that would mean they are wrong from the beginning.


What they will do will be to reform the statutes and revised four particular aspects: first, what is the PAN, why people should vote for the PAN, which is the narrative and the discourse that should have with citizens.


The second is functional: how the party chooses how candidates and leaders, how to join and what mechanisms have to resolve internal conflicts.


Third, a programmatic review: return to the transition agenda and to review reform agenda.


And fourth, the strategy for winning elections more competitive, better prepared for candidates and campaigns, and decide when to make alliances and when not.


He said that will continue to lead the party until the end of his term in 2013.


With information from Notimex and Reforma, Milenio. "

so basically PAN says yes we accept there was fraud but we still aprove of the election.

In other news


Soriana lost 414 million dollars so far in July

"Analysts believe that the alleged vote-buying company in favor of the PRI would have unnerved investors, but also cite possible IPyC output in September as the cause.

Between 1 and 9 July, the shares of the company Soriana grocery stores has fallen 7.4% on the Mexican Stock Exchange (BMV), which represents a loss of 414 million dollars (mdd) after elections July 1.


According to CNN Expansion, accusations of alleged vote buying for virtual winner of the elections, the PRI Enrique Peña Nieto, and nervousness that the topic has generated among investors, have led to the collapse of the equity in the originator company of Coahuila.


With this, only nine days past Organización Soriana would cost 5 thousand 561 thousand 147 million dollars to 5 billion.


However, the site also refers to the falling value of this company could be because in September will the Index of Prices and Quotations (IPyC).


Sources say that despite the decline of the company stock, it will not affected its operations and continue to grow."


http://www.cnnexpansion.com/negocios...riana-en-bolsa
http://aristeguinoticias.com/pierde-...elecciones2012