This is ridiculous, how can you "90% sealed" ??Originally Posted by IRN34
If Iran knows that there are 10% of smuggling attempts going into Iran without being stopped, why doesn't Iran stop them ?
If it knows there's smuggling, why doesn't Iran stop it ?
so the 90% thing is 100% propaganda..
Actually you are talking about the Iranian action against Jundullah which strikes targets inside Iran while I am talking about the sectarian violence in Pakistan, which was between Sunni and Shia groups, backed by Saudi Arabia and Iran respectively.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectari...ce_in_Pakistan
Sealed as in by building a fence. The Iranians plan to fence the complete border which, if I remember correctly is around 1700 kms long. And when you factor in that India almost 4000 km border with Pakistan is fenced, you realise that Pakistan is the most fenced off country in the world.
Just like everybody says "Build a wall around it". That is exactly what Pakistan's neighbours do, and if you dont you become Afghanistan.
Look at the length of the Iran's border with neighboring countries. Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan; they constitute the majority of Iran's border and they all have significant terrorist presence. It's possible to secure the most well visited and documented transit routes between Iran and those countries, where, statistically for example, 90% of the migrant population pass through, but there will obviously be some more obscure places that cannot be as well protected. I don't believe the lack of effort on the part of Iran is the real problem. Meanwhile the terrorists are bold and well organized, for obvious reasons.
What probably complicates matters is that many incidents like this happen not within Iranian territory, so the degree to which Iran can protect the pilgrims is very limited. I wonder if Iran neglected to protect civilians from these terrorists within its own border where it clearly had the opportunity to do so though.
Dude, if we didnt seal the Afghan border most of the European youths life would got destroyed by the drugs from Afghanistan. Like i said, Iran spent alot of money and soldiers on both unstable fronts, Afgh and Pak borders
On the Pakistan border we achieved alot, look the Jundullah operations against Iranian military or civilians from 2010 till now. Yes, 0
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I'm assuming they're Shia pilgrims.
Ambassador, Pakistan doesn't need Saudi help when it comes to mobilizing the fundamentalists.
Saudi Arabia only was able to start exporting Wahabbism since they got phat cash from oil. Pakistan has been exporting general Sunni fundamentalism from day one on a shoestring budget, and I would say they are pretty successful. So us trying to pressure SA isn't going to do jack **** in stopping Pakistani attacks on their own Shia citizens, or any radicalization for that matter. As huluaku said in another thread, they like to think of themselves as Islamic Supermen
These are PAKISTANI Pilgrims trying to visit shrines and other holy places in Iran. They were attacked IN Pakistan on the way TO Iran. This isn't technically an international incident. Though attacking religious pilgrims usually doesn't bode well for who does it. After all, it was the final straw that prompted the Crusades. Iran in this case, if they had attacked said group, would basically have declared war on Pakistan. And while it would be nice to see Iran and Pakistan beat each other to death, the consequences would be vast.What probably complicates matters is that many incidents like this happen not within Iranian territory, so the degree to which Iran can protect the pilgrims is very limited.
Holy ****, I didn't even realize that :o! Indeed, everyone is sick of Pakistan's ****.Sealed as in by building a fence. The Iranians plan to fence the complete border which, if I remember correctly is around 1700 kms long. And when you factor in that India almost 4000 km border with Pakistan is fenced, you realise that Pakistan is the most fenced off country in the world.
Just like everybody says "Build a wall around it". That is exactly what Pakistan's neighbours do, and if you dont you become Afghanistan.
And yet you have dumbos here who say a wall or border fence is impossible on our Mex border.
One day Sunni and Shia will put their differences aside. It happened to the Catholics and Protestants too.
please do not compare those...there's no parallels...not even close.
There is apparently a twist in the tale
Punjabis targeted in Turbat, 18 shot dead
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2012\07\07\story_7-7-2012_pg1_1QUETTA: At least 18 people were shot dead and two others were injured when unidentified armed men opened fire on them on Friday.
They were all from northern parts of Pakistan and were dropped in Dasht area, mainly Shooli Jam Bazaar, by a passenger bus from Karachi. The Iranian border is about 20 kilometres from the spot where the incident took place.
So it was Punjabis looking to get work in Iran who got shot by Baluch rebels (Baloch Liberation Tigers) apparently.
That wont happen because the Persians use their Shia faith as a balance against the Sunni Arabs
Sunni and Shia are fundamentally the same.
Against?? It's the same faith, not 2 different religions.
Really, then would you care to explain why they are considerd two different denominations of Islam?
They are 2 different sects, but they both follow the fundamentals of Islam.
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