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    Default SC-130J Sea Hercules Maritime Patrol Aircraft

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtGM9ldHcgM

    Seems like Lockmart is specifically aiming at the UK MPA market with this one...

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    Needs to be fitted with anti-scrapping countermeasures before the RAF will consider it.

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    And anyone who's spent a few hours flying in the back of a herc will know it's a crap idea. The U.K. Would be better off with refurbished P3's or S3's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arfah View Post
    And anyone who's spent a few hours flying in the back of a herc will know it's a crap idea. The U.K. Would be better off with refurbished P3's or S3's
    I understand why people would view the 'Vomit Comet' as a poor platform for a maritime patrol/ASW aircraft. But the C295 and other smaller cargo aircraft have been quite successful in this role. It makes me wonder if the C-130 could not be made into a suitably stable platform with a better stabilization system. Do they not have fly-by-wire flight control systems these days? Computer-controlled surfaces should be able to render a smooth ride. A removable shelter system that could be fitted into the cargo bay would provide both the required crew comfort and equipment environmental protection and cooling, along with quick convertibility back to the cargo role if required. Weapons pylons have already been fitted to C-130s, though heavier-duty ones would likely be required. This does not seem to be a big stretch so far as the engineering challenge. The logistical advantages are obvious.

    And as I recall, the Brits are already using a C-130 equipped with a surface-scanning RADAR for maritime patrol out of MPA. How is that working out?

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    I know of no feedback of the hercules in the mpa role.

    USCG as well as UK use it but for the RAF it is only meant to be a stop gap solution.

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    Interesting.
    Back in 1982 Argentine Air Focre used C-130´s to search for RN ships; one of them was even armed with free-fall bombs and was used in one or two attacks, IIRC

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    Good Lord, the defense market is being flooded with MPA designs..

    This is how a Sea Hercules should look like:




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    That pic does look good

    However, it's for SAR and resupply not MPA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arfah View Post
    However, it's for SAR and resupply not MPA
    Indeed, a pity.

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    Mutton dressed as lamb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arfah View Post
    That pic does look good

    However, it's for SAR and resupply not MPA
    It looks good indeed !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steak-Sauce View Post
    Good Lord, the defense market is being flooded with MPA designs..

    This is how a Sea Hercules should look like:



    Reminds me of....





    The amount of aerodynamic drag on a C-130 with floats would be truly hideous.

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    Okay, I'm a bit late here, but why wouldn't a P8 do for the UK?

    (although I do think that Coast Guard SAR C-130 looks cool )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt-Col A. Tack View Post
    Okay, I'm a bit late here, but why wouldn't a P8 do for the UK?

    (although I do think that Coast Guard SAR C-130 looks cool )
    It would be great for the UK from the military perspective. From the political perspective, it would be 'shipping jobs overseas', 'destroying our struggling defence industry', and etcetera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    It would be great for the UK from the military perspective. From the political perspective, it would be 'shipping jobs overseas', 'destroying our struggling defence industry', and etcetera.
    Ah, got it. Many thanks, sir.

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