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    "Speech dysfunction" and other stuff like that is the favorite laywer's tactic to dramatize a injury.
    After spending some time at court you start to think that no one ever fully recovers from any injury without severe disabilities.

    I only read about the case because the defense laywer of the Neo Nazi was a left winger herself and she was severely criticized by her fellow left wing jurists for defending a "evil" man who hurt one of their own.

    Seems she was successful and fortunately civil rights like self defense and in dubio pro reo are not depending on political orientation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyusu View Post
    Well, fighting in equal numbers against people who spend half of their time pumping iron isnt that good idea(especially when one takes drugs himself instead of doing sport). You must consider that weight and muscle difference between common antifa guy and common neonazi.
    LOL the thing is... most people attacked by antifa are normal people. And i saw this few times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCR View Post
    "Speech dysfunction" and other stuff like that is the favorite laywer's tactic to dramatize a injury.
    After spending some time at court you start to think that no one ever fully recovers from any injury without severe disabilities.

    I only read about the case because the defense laywer of the Neo Nazi was a left winger herself and she was severely criticized by her fellow left wing jurists for defending a "evil" man who hurt one of their own.

    Seems she was successful and fortunately civil rights like self defense and in dubio pro reo are not depending on political orientation.
    Yeah it seems that she was even kicked out of her "hippie-world-peace-whatever"-club because of this.



    For all i care everyone involved in the incident could've died. Left wing, right wing i dont care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyusu View Post
    Well, fighting in equal numbers against people who spend half of their time pumping iron isnt that good idea(especially when one takes drugs himself instead of doing sport). You must consider that weight and muscle difference between common antifa guy and common neonazi.
    Ngati, can we give this guy the DAOTW at last?

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    Quote Originally Posted by muck View Post
    Ngati, can we give this guy the DAOTW at last?
    I suggested that a week ago or so, but someone mentioned that he just doesn't have what it takes. Really that's more of an insult. He's not even good enough for that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by muck View Post
    Ngati, can we give this guy the DAOTW at last?
    What for? If you are unable to understand that this post wasnt 100% serious(you know part with drugs should have made it clear), then it isnt my problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyusu View Post
    What for? If you are unable to understand that this post wasnt 100% serious(you know part with drugs should have made it clear), then it isnt my problem.
    You suck at sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seraosha View Post
    Pretty much. No one cares if extremist leftists with their faces covered get run over by anyone else.
    Not at all. I would have used a bulldozer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyd View Post
    Not at all. I would have used a bulldozer.
    Hate speech right there.

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    Sorry, I'm just not all into political correctness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyusu View Post
    Well, fighting in equal numbers against people who spend half of their time pumping iron isnt that good idea(especially when one takes drugs himself instead of doing sport). You must consider that weight and muscle difference between common antifa guy and common neonazi.
    Ive seen a good collection of both in my short time in Germany, theres not much difference, there are a few more roid heads on the right wing but thats of no real consequence, they even wear similar clothes, and theres no difference in the level of violence each will perpetrate against innocents and each other alike, let alone when they target the Police, who do an outstanding job trying to keep these backwards retarded "Elitists" from hurting themselves or innocent people.

    That said I understand why the court let the bloke off as it could be reasonably assumed he was in effect attempting to escape. From the precedences set in the past, a left wing mob is just as violent and deadly as a right wing mob. they arent going to hold hands and sing protest songs around your vehicle, as is too many peoples "romantic" portrayal of Left Wing actionists. Couple of months back some attempted to BBQ two police officers in their vehicle. Got no love for either side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyon View Post
    Yeah it seems that she was even kicked out of her "hippie-world-peace-whatever"-club because of this.



    For all i care everyone involved in the incident could've died. Left wing, right wing i dont care.
    Ack that, I see Thor Steinar wearing types all the time in my neighbourhood, I get left alone but thats probably because I am more Nordic and bigger than most of them. Got no love for them or the Left Wing Radicals. And I am not suprised she felt some reprocussions from this because she didnt tow the seemingly German line of "Bash the Nazi at all costs". Yes, he deserves a kick in the teeth for his irresponsible acts and life choices, but she did what she saw was the right thing by interpreting the law. Sadly Germans seem willing to turn a blind eye to the left on many occasions, or dismiss the lethality of their bombing campaigns and attacks on establishment. Just my observations

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    Sometimes reading a thread like this about the left and right wing extreme politics in Germany kills a little piece inside of me. It makes the English Defence League and the opposing leftist cohorts here look like a bunch of amateurs. The Law is the Law regardless of political orientation, and good on the lawyer for acknowledging this fact when defending the neo-Nazi dunderhead.

    I've got one question to ask - why is there such a huge polarity in Germany in both extreme left and extreme right wing parties? And are such parties large and growing or decreasing in number or what?

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    Right-leaning politics are obviously a delicate issue in Germany.
    Moreover the political spectrum of this country fosters tensions between its respective ends, as the left branch is continuous and without interruption while on the other hand there is no party to fill the ("still democratic") gap between the center-right and the extreme right.
    The very existence of such a link between the democratic center-left and the extreme left, along with the "inherent wickedness" of everything "right-leaning", provides radical leftists with a certain moral authority they need to look less dangerous. Additionally they have a different foe image that is in a subtle way more "agreeable" for a tendentially left-leaning and pacifist society and makes their violence less visual.
    In the 1990s Neo-Nazis were a tremendous danger and got a lot of blood on their hands while the extreme left posed a grave threat in the two decades before that. Since 2007 and the riots surrounding the G8 summit in Germany, leftist violence has been on the rise again and surpassing the number of Neo-Nazi crimes as of late.
    There is only one Neo-Nazi party in Germany now ("National Democrats"), and while it has some seats in a few regional parliaments, it is rather irrelevant on national level with only about 7000 members. The violent left again is split up between the youth organisation of "The Left" (the aforementioned leftist "gap filler" party) and a larger camp that doesn't seek party participation.
    All in all, we're talking about maybe 50,000 people here (stable trend).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strelok126 View Post
    Sometimes reading a thread like this about the left and right wing extreme politics in Germany kills a little piece inside of me. It makes the English Defence League and the opposing leftist cohorts here look like a bunch of amateurs.
    So true, our lot look very tame compared to the Germans and the French and the scary elements of both factions in the UK have a healthy respect for each others capabilities. Our far right are more likely to suffer harm at the hands of their own peer group in the UK.

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