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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyusu View Post
    Are the companies that weren't started by couple people? They all are.
    Many are conglomerations who's "founder" is debatable. Who founded Lockheed Martin? No single person did because one group founded Lockheed way back in the day and another Martin. How about Northrop Grumman? Same thing. General Dynamics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    Was it started by a couple people? (I think that's the criteria here.)
    Started by a man that would be called socialist by people like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackie View Post
    Started by a man that would be called socialist by people like you.
    If the shoe fits. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    Many are conglomerations who's "founder" is debatable. Who founded Lockheed Martin? No single person did because one group founded Lockheed way back in the day and another Martin. How about Northrop Grumman? Same thing. General Dynamics?
    Conglomerations arent new "founded" companies. They just unite several other - and they were founded by single or few persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyusu View Post
    Conglomerations arent new "founded" companies. They just unite several other - and they were founded by single or few persons.
    Exactly. But the united company itself wasn't founded by a single person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    Exactly. But the united company itself wasn't founded by a single person.
    Well, ye. Btw. - what does it have to do with the topic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyusu View Post
    Well, ye. Btw. - what does it have to do with the topic?
    Read post #28.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyusu View Post
    Are the companies that weren't started by couple people? They all are. And that not what Obama was talking about. He was talking about that this couple of people did receive education and used state infrastructure, etc. to become successful.
    So fricking what. Do they employ people, thus allowing them to make a living? Do they pay their taxes? If yes, they don't owe shit to the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muck View Post
    So fricking what. Do they employ people, thus allowing them to make a living? Do they pay their taxes? If yes, they don't owe shit to the government.
    You know that he was talking about not prolonging Bushs tax cuts, dont you? So its all about the taxes. Obama was describing his opinion on why they pay taxes in first place.

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    "Not affordable" would be a better argument than this sort of quixotic talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackie View Post
    All this companies listed employ around 190.000 people and fill most of the "business" papers headlines these days.
    The company I work for employs 303.000 people and is never mentioned.

    No offense. Just something, I notice these days.
    Common, Siemens rather regularly appears in niews. Like here:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16166354
    US authorities have charged eight former executives at German industrial giant Siemens in connection with a $100m (£64m) foreign bribery scheme.
    or like here:
    http://www.cbn.co.za/dailynews/6060.html
    The department of Labour has lost R1.9 billion because of a mismanaged IT contract with Siemens.
    or like here:
    http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...24-711707.html
    FRANKFURT (Dow Jones)--Siemens AG (SI) will slash 490 jobs at German transformer factories by the end of 2014 due to falling prices and overcapacity, Siemens energy spokesman Torsten Wolf told Dow Jones Newswires Thursday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyusu View Post
    You know that he was talking about not prolonging Bushs tax cuts, dont you? So its all about the taxes. Obama was describing his opinion on why they pay taxes in first place.
    He separates "successful" people from the rest and implies that "successes" should be shared. it's not a bad thing by itself, and in times of troubles it is a common solution, but normal politicians go to these succesful people and ask for help or for more active "participation in state life". Separating "us" and "them" and claiming that "them" should give more is a socialistic thing. No matter how you turn it around.
    Sha-a-a-ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DS73 View Post
    He separates "successful" people from the rest and implies that "successes" should be shared. it's not a bad thing by itself, and in times of troubles it is a common solution, but normal politicians go to these succesful people and ask for help or for more active "participation in state life". Separating "us" and "them" and claiming that "them" should give more is a socialistic thing. No matter how you turn it around.
    Sha-a-a-ring.
    Sharing is voluntary charity. 'Redistribution of wealth' is armed robbery by the state.

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    Obama= foot in mouth.

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    We all know that sherm DID build his hog barbequing grill, and his beer holding lawn mower

    Well at least tacked on certain elements

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