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    Is it hard to start a small business in Europe because of all the regulations and taxes? I assume it's unbelievably easy to start one in china because of the lack of enviro regulations.

    I guess you can be grateful that you can start a business here n an environment that isn't fallujah or Kandahar because of the public infrastructure and security etc. is a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin84 View Post
    I guess you can be grateful that you can start a business here n an environment that isn't fallujah or Kandahar because of the public infrastructure and security etc. is a good thing.
    It actually is easier to start a business in many 3rd world countries that it is here. What's worse is keeping it going after the government sinks it's taxation fangs into you. If I had my choice based on my business alone I would definitely do it elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin84 View Post
    Is it hard to start a small business in Europe because of all the regulations and taxes?
    Not at all. Even in dire times like this you can get a lot of support and cash in grants, particularly in key branches of the economy. Certain crafts enterprises and agriculture don't get coddled though.

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    A key test is just how long does it take to wade through all the government (and bank) hoops and hurdles before you can start trading? Is it days, weeks or months (or in the case of India - years)?

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    I'll post this here too:

    OBAMA: We're sure not going to spend that money better on tax cuts for me.
    Does anyone really catch the way this guy talks? He's saying 100% of what you make belongs to the Government. If he lets you keep it...that's spending. WTF? And then he has the nerve to say "for ME" What?! Is he the Government then? I guess we already have a monarchy. Sounds a little like:
    If you’ve got a business. you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.
    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...45#post6274345
    Last edited by Mein Teil; 07-19-2012 at 01:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin84 View Post
    Is it hard to start a small business in Europe because of all the regulations and taxes? I assume it's unbelievably easy to start one in china because of the lack of enviro regulations.

    I guess you can be grateful that you can start a business here n an environment that isn't fallujah or Kandahar because of the public infrastructure and security etc. is a good thing.
    It's not hard hard at all in the UK at least I have never found it difficult from a regulatory standpoint and taxes are not an obstacle, the biggest issue you will face is planning consent for commercial purpose new builds and change of use. It's my only gripe due to the tax raising priorities of local councils who see a higher revenue return from dwellings rather than manufacturing operations, local authorities tend to smooth the path for dwellings. The enforcement of environmental regulations in China vary from city or region they can be very hard assed about it sometimes and many businesses do not get off the ground due to the vagaries of local and regional politics.

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    The Wash. times article doesn't really explain to me his comments about entrpreneurs. It just seems he is trying to spin it into a different subject.

    Hoover dam? GG bridge ? ..... doesn't explain why he thinks "If you’ve got a business. you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."

    ....not at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by toad View Post
    The Wash. times article doesn't really explain to me his comments about entrpreneurs. It just seems he is trying to spin it into a different subject.

    Hoover dam? GG bridge ? ..... doesn't explain why he thinks "If you’ve got a business. you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen."

    ....not at all
    I do not think that anyone really understands Barry's ravings on that particular subject.

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    That was the STUPIDEST THING OBAMA HAS SAID! (yet) Is he trying not to get relected?

    I don't want any of the presidential candidates to be president.

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    Some explantation of this line I found

    Obama said that businesses needed infrastructure investment to succeed. "If you've got a business, you didn't build that, somebody else made that happen," he said. Mitt Romney took the line out of context, and used it to attack the president for being anti-business.

    From here
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1697665.html

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    It's not just taken "out of context", it's simply a highly questionable comment.

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    Mattel made those blocks
    Your teacher taught you how to place them on one another
    Your mommy changed your diapers and fed you mashed peas
    Pampers made your diapers
    No little missy, you did not build that!

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    Even if you accept the idea that when Barry said "you didn't build that", he was talking about roads, bridges and other infrastructure, the general thrust of his comments remain. His statement was to the effect that business owners could not do anything without government providing necessary services. The problem with that is that the opposite is true. American was built by businessmen before the government was even in the infrastructure-building business in a big way. And even where the government today builds lots of infrastructure, private construction firms are usually contracted to do the work, and the tax money from businesses and business owners largely pays for it all. But Barry always puts government first as the solution, the provider, the savior for us all. That is his mindset. He is a statist to the core.

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    Taken out of context geez what a joke. This is just like his "The private sector is doing fine." Gaff.

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