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    What do you not understand about war?

    There are no courts, warrants, etc.

    The burden of proof for getting on the "kill list" is a lot lower than a court of law "by design". Could you imagine the total cluster F that would be caused if we had to show all the top secret sources of info as to all the detailed info we have. This would be in addition to the self-incriminating videos they keep putting out.

    Like I said before, guilt by association (with Al-Q) is a real bitch in wartime.

    For those of you who have not seen it, here is Al-Aulaqi in a video with Al-Q. Doing that, he basicaly signed his own death warrant.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8645972.stm

    Anyway you slice it, he brought this upon himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpudmanWP View Post
    What do you not understand about war?

    There are no courts, warrants, etc.

    The burden of proof for getting on the "kill list" is a lot lower than a court of law "by design". Could you imagine the total cluster F that would be caused if we had to show all the top secret sources of info as to all the detailed info we have. This would be in addition to the self-incriminating videos they keep putting out.

    Like I said before, guilt by association (with Al-Q) is a real bitch in wartime.

    For those of you who have not seen it, here is Al-Aulaqi in a video with Al-Q. Doing that, he basicaly signed his own death warrant.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8645972.stm

    Anyway you slice it, he brought this upon himself.
    That's not being argued here.

    Terrorism should not be confused with traditional warfare. In war, the target is selected for its military value.

    Terrorism is a political act to achieve a desired goal through the use of violence. Terrorism is not an irrational act committed by the insane. The terrorist does not act for personal gain or gratification, thus the terrorist is not a criminal in the traditional sense. A terrorist believes in what he, is doing. The objective is worth the life of the terrorist and the lives of the people he/she will take. The intent is not to kill those who die in an attack, but to affect the larger society as a whole, its laws, its institutions, and its values.

    Which is why, when we degrade our laws and our constitution AQ wins.

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    Which is why, when we degrade our laws and our constitution AQ wins.
    If we did not go after terrorists, wherever they are, then they would continue to flourish and build strength as long as they never personally appeared in US Area of Operations.

    Using that logic we would have never gone after AQ in Afghanistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpudmanWP View Post
    If we did not go after terrorists, wherever they are, then they would continue to flourish and build strength as long as they never personally appeared in US Area of Operations.

    Using that logic we would have never gone after AQ in Afghanistan.
    Nobody is saying don't go after terrorists. Not once has that even been implied, man.

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    ^^^ sounds like y'all agree to agree but disagree in admitting that you agree.

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    Why isnt Obama being sued? he gave the go ahead as CiC..................

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    Why isnt Obama being sued? he gave the go ahead as CiC..................
    x2.

    He is accountable.

    Could this lawsuit technically include the POTUS, since he is the CiC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackFlag View Post
    x2.

    He is accountable.

    Could this lawsuit technically include the POTUS, since he is the CiC?
    Although Obama had to give his approval for the assassination order, suing the President directly is a loser case. All he has to do is declare executive privilege, and the lawsuit is thrown out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpudmanWP View Post
    What do you not understand about war?

    There are no courts, warrants, etc.

    The burden of proof for getting on the "kill list" is a lot lower than a court of law "by design". Could you imagine the total cluster F that would be caused if we had to show all the top secret sources of info as to all the detailed info we have. This would be in addition to the self-incriminating videos they keep putting out.

    Like I said before, guilt by association (with Al-Q) is a real bitch in wartime.

    For those of you who have not seen it, here is Al-Aulaqi in a video with Al-Q. Doing that, he basicaly signed his own death warrant.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8645972.stm

    Anyway you slice it, he brought this upon himself.
    Well, I guess we should have taken out Jane Fonda for participating in a North Vietnamese propaganda piece. Hell, she was even shown partially in uniform, manning AA. Why not Mickey Rourke? He, at one point claimed to have funded the IRA with earnings from a film. He still has an IRA tattoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackFlag View Post
    Well, I guess we should have taken out Jane Fonda for participating in a North Vietnamese propaganda piece. Hell, she was even shown partially in uniform, manning AA. Why not Mickey Rourke? He, at one point claimed to have funded the IRA with earnings from a film. He still has an IRA tattoo.
    Yeah, but those two contributed to Obama's reelection campaign. Calling in drone strikes on your big Hollywood donors is bad for business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    Yeah, but those two contributed to Obama's reelection campaign. Calling in drone strikes on your big Hollywood donors is bad for business.
    Lol!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackFlag View Post
    Well, I guess we should have taken out Jane Fonda for participating in a North Vietnamese propaganda piece. Hell, she was even shown partially in uniform, manning AA. Why not Mickey Rourke? He, at one point claimed to have funded the IRA with earnings from a film. He still has an IRA tattoo.
    Her getting caught up in a B52 run would have been LULZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry's Fork View Post
    Her getting caught up in a B52 run would have been LULZ.
    That would have been gliorious. To bad she wasn't at a SA-2 site when the Iron Hand/Wild Weasels were around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackFlag View Post
    Well, I guess we should have taken out Jane Fonda for participating in a North Vietnamese propaganda piece. Hell, she was even shown partially in uniform, manning AA. Why not Mickey Rourke? He, at one point claimed to have funded the IRA with earnings from a film. He still has an IRA tattoo.
    Nice examples!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laworkerbee View Post
    Nice examples!
    He doesn't know, so for him it works. Yes Jane Fonda should have been in the cross hair of some targeting system. Turning in the POWs to the NVA guards was beyond being anti-war.

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