Fracking critics using bad science, experts say

[Mordoror]

Nice drawing but doesn't represent all the cases
FYI the first oil reserves in Romania were found 150 m depth
The first oil "well" in USA was 69 feet depth
Above the aquifer area, in both cases

[seraosha]

Where seraosha when it comes to petro threads, he's never there

Im here, I just dont care what hysterical panic monkeys have to say about fraking. There very well could be long term environmental impacts, as fraking has really only been around for 50 years or so. And as a private citizen I'm in support of us weaning ourselves off fossil fuel dependancy, utilizing numerous other options that we all know about...no, at the core of the isue is ignorance beyond what folks see on some tv show, and doing a little googling beyond "gasland".

I'm uninterested in arguing which is better...starbellied sneetches vs no starred sneetches...

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Fracking occurs thousands of feet deep, far below multiple impervious layers. The deep strata where it does occur is naturally full of one of the worst pollutants known to man; petroleum. Petroleum has a lot of light, volatile fractions in it that would have seeped up and contaminated the ground water thousands of years ago. It has not. The only reason the petroleum and methane (natural gas) are still down there at all, stayed there for millennia and did not seep up and disperse is because it is trapped by multiple impervious layers that are above it. This is not a difficult concept to grasp.

Talk about bad science then oversimplify the extraction process, I am pro-fracking with the caveat that I feel the whole industry is largely a bubble of sorts but there is no doubt that process fluids and methane have migrated into the water table in some locations. Another issue is venting off condensates and volatiles its a health problem in some areas (probably down to geography) yet there is little done about it. Your correct Ought Six the anti fracking crew do use obtuse science but certain operators in the US NG sector have thrown care to the wind.
I sometimes think the NG fracking folks are a victim of their own malevolence after giving $26 million the Sierra Club anti-coal campaign now that the Seirra Club are speaking out against fracking.

[T3ngu]

Talk about bad science then oversimplify the extraction process, I am pro-fracking with the caveat that I feel the whole industry is largely a bubble of sorts but there is no doubt that process fluids and methane have migrated into the water table in some locations. Another issue is venting off condensates and volatiles its a health problem in some areas (probably down to geography) yet there is little done about it. Your correct Ought Six the anti fracking crew do use obtuse science but certain operators in the US NG sector have thrown care to the wind.
I sometimes think the NG fracking folks are a victim of their own malevolence after giving $26 million the Sierra Club anti-coal campaign now that the Seirra Club are speaking out against fracking.

As i said above, im all for pulling stuff from the ground. But the no fracking vs fracking crew are both skewing the information out there.

[Ought Six]

hysterical panic monkeys

[commanding]

Talk about bad science then oversimplify the extraction process, I am pro-fracking with the caveat that I feel the whole industry is largely a bubble of sorts but there is no doubt that process fluids and methane have migrated into the water table in some locations. Another issue is venting off condensates and volatiles its a health problem in some areas (probably down to geography) yet there is little done about it. Your correct Ought Six the anti fracking crew do use obtuse science but certain operators in the US NG sector have thrown care to the wind.
I sometimes think the NG fracking folks are a victim of their own malevolence after giving $26 million the Sierra Club anti-coal campaign now that the Seirra Club are speaking out against fracking.

Mr. GB,
There is a fracking gas well about 3/4 mile south of me and has been there maybe 2 yrs.
On your statement that there is no doubt that the fluids of fracking and methane have migrated into the water table.....that may be true, I do not know. I do know that in the area west of us (about 40 miles) people were throwing a fit, showing how they could light the water from their faucet which was well water. They had TV crews and all and it was on the news....what they did not tell at the time was that there was methane in their well water long long before any gas drilling and fracking took place in the vicinity. so evidently it is entirely possible to get natural gas from underground in your well water, even without fracking or drilling. Just saying,.... to make the facts a bit more clear.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Mr. GB,
There is a fracking gas well about 3/4 mile south of me and has been there maybe 2 yrs.
On your statement that there is no doubt that the fluids of fracking and methane have migrated into the water table.....that may be true, I do not know. I do know that in the area west of us (about 40 miles) people were throwing a fit, showing how they could light the water from their faucet which was well water. They had TV crews and all and it was on the news....what they did not tell at the time was that there was methane in their well water long long before any gas drilling and fracking took place in the vicinity. so evidently it is entirely possible to get natural gas from underground in your well water, even without fracking or drilling. Just saying,.... to make the facts a bit more clear.

There are areas in the US where there is natural methane migration into the water table but if you increase the pressure within underlying gas bearing strata you can increase the rate of upwards migration.
Your state has an odd disconnect between regulating extraction and the environment as its the Texas Rail Road Commision that's in charge of extraction.