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    Quote Originally Posted by tanks_alot View Post
    If you'd bothered reading the thread, or reserach the subject a bit, prior to writing ignorant posts, you'd realize that the families aren't just "popping" it now, 40 years later. they've been "popping" it at every olympic game, since 1972 and been rejected each time.
    I read the article, and it is being propped 40 years later by the press to the point the IOC cannot say sorry but is feeling obliged to buttercup this in the most ridiculous fashion.

    It is even more ridiculous when one thinks about the fact that that minute of silence will spark MORE unintended consequences from less desirable factions, with less desirable outcomes. Especially for Israel. And I am not speaking about violence.

    Sometimes it is really easy, take the rules for what they are, not for what you think they are.

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    I don't see a problem with it and don't see it as a politicized issue at all. Given that the terrorist act occurred during the Olympic games it could certainly be appropriate to remember the victims taking into consideration that they are tied directly to it. We see this done in other sporting events as well (I believe this last Euro had a minute of silence). 40 years may seem like an odd number, but when your sporting event occurs every 4 years you could say that it's the 10th anniversary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dttk0009 View Post
    I don't see a problem with it and don't see it as a politicized issue at all. Given that the terrorist act occurred during the Olympic games it could certainly be appropriate to remember the victims taking into consideration that they are tied directly to it. We see this done in other sporting events as well (I believe this last Euro had a minute of silence). 40 years may seem like an odd number, but when your sporting event occurs every 4 years you could say that it's the 10th anniversary.
    ... Unless you think that people are just passive drones who will go fine with anything that is thrown at them, having that minute of silence will inevitably lead to considering :

    1. The event.
    2. Its causes.
    3. The Games themselves.
    4. Other significant events that on themselves have seen people die during Olympic games in their venues, at the hands of any political and institutionnal entity.


    *The UEFA was criticized for no allowing a minute of silence regarding a footballer and fan that died during the Euro.

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    It's a bloody shame. This constant buckling before the Arab's worlds demands is immoral. If they cannot force themselves to commemorate 11 innocent people just because they were Jews they should hold their own bloody juicefree games in their part of the world.

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    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/20...nt-of-silence/

    Interesting article about how the olympics do not want to disrupt the peace processes or the arab members at the Olympic games.

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    Nothing like being intimidated from doing the right thing. Maybe we should entirely ignore Taiwan because the PRC gets pissy.

    Quote Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe View Post
    I read the article, and it is being propped 40 years later by the press to the point the IOC cannot say sorry but is feeling obliged to buttercup this in the most ridiculous fashion.

    It is even more ridiculous when one thinks about the fact that that minute of silence will spark MORE unintended consequences from less desirable factions, with less desirable outcomes. Especially for Israel. And I am not speaking about violence.

    Sometimes it is really easy, take the rules for what they are, not for what you think they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaplanr View Post
    Nothing like being intimidated from doing the right thing. Maybe we should entirely ignore Taiwan because the PRC gets pissy.
    I think he is trying to present a realpolitik argument that Israel should desist from the IOC issue because other anti-Israel organizations will use it as precedent for leverage on other types of venues for anti-Israel propaganda.

    That said, since this is a request for an Olympic memorial to slain Olympic athletes, the risk that some anti-Israel nuck fut will use it against Israel later is small and not relevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaplanr View Post
    Nothing like being intimidated from doing the right thing. Maybe we should entirely ignore Taiwan because the PRC gets pissy.
    Uurgh...it has nothing to do with intimidation. It has to do with rules. Next we would hear how the IOC will be anti-semitic because turds will pull anemic stunts at each and every occasion with direct links to the Israeli-Palestinian issue. A bit like the UN actually. There are only rules. Strict rules mean equally shutting up for all. Not later than a month ago a freaking campaign to dennounce the Bahraini arsehole in charge and banning him from the games was ruled out by the IOC. I did not heard many of you yap on that, did I?

    As said, if this hurts Israelis and others THAT much, please do boycott.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe View Post
    Uurgh...it has nothing to do with intimidation. It has to do with rules. Next we would hear how the IOC will be anti-semitic because turds will pull anemic stunts at each and every occasion with direct links to the Israeli-Palestinian issue. A bit like the UN actually. There are only rules. Strict rules mean equally shutting up for all. Not later than a month ago a freaking campaign to dennounce the Bahraini arsehole in charge and banning him from the games was ruled out by the IOC. I did not heard many of you yap on that, did I?

    As said, if this hurts Israelis and others THAT much, please do boycott.
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    Like that time a few days ago when Lebanese judo fighters training near Israeli judo fighters, demanded that a screen will be put down between them and the Israelis and the IOC told them to get bent!

    Oh, wait. they didn't tell them to get bent and instead indeed placed a screen between the two teams. so, I'm confused now, I thought that the IOC have strict rules against bowing down to politics... I'm shocked!

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    There was The Atlanta Centennial Olympic Park bombing in '96. Two were killed and 111 were injured.

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    I loved how they managed to remember WW1 and the victims of the London bombings but not the murdered Israelis of 1972 during the opening ceremony.


    Thats just pure skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyon View Post
    I loved how they managed to remember WW1 and the victims of the London bombings but not the murdered Israelis of 1972 during the opening ceremony.
    It's almost like the ceremony was showing the history of Britain and major events that occurred in London or something

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    Did we have a minute of silence at Barcelona '92? Or is 40 years just more magical than 20 years? I'm not much into mourning at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanks_alot View Post
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    Like that time a few days ago when Lebanese judo fighters training near Israeli judo fighters, demanded that a screen will be put down between them and the Israelis and the IOC told them to get bent!

    Oh, wait. they didn't tell them to get bent and instead indeed placed a screen between the two teams. so, I'm confused now, I thought that the IOC have strict rules against bowing down to politics... I'm shocked!
    What has it to do with PUBLIC statements...the fact is that Israelis are making this public. That the athletes would want a screen for any other reason than simply politics. Fact, Americans were absolutely horrendous in 1988 with their Soviet counterparts in Gymnastics openly shouting and willing to work out in the same time schedule while the Soviet ground team was working out, but that remained within the realms of the IOC. Or was that not a political gesture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by quinsen View Post
    Did we have a minute of silence at Barcelona '92? Or is 40 years just more magical than 20 years? I'm not much into mourning at all.
    You are welcome to not be into mourning, but some people are, and in fact the minute of silence is not so much mourning as it is honoring and for those religious perhaps silent prayers. We are all different, some people mourn and remember, some do not. It would be a boring world if we were all alike.
    However...what is done is done on the minute of silence..it did not happen and will not. However the TV announcers here at least did mention the minute of silence controversy verbally, so some people at least at home did have the minute.

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