Reply With QuoteGood on Japan for sending a clear message. Would hate to see the situation escalate into violence however.
With eye on China, Japan considers deploying troops to disputed islands
TOKYO - Japan's defense minister on Friday warned Tokyo could send troops to a chain of East China Sea islands at the centre of a territorial row with China if the simmering dispute escalated.Satoshi Morimoto said Tokyo's position had not changed, but confirmed that it would use force to defend the islands known as Senkaku in Japanese and Diaoyu in Chinese.
"Senkaku or not, defense of islands is principally conducted by the coastguard and police," Morimoto told reporters in Tokyo.
"However, the law stipulates that Self-Defense Forces troops can act" if local authorities are unable to handle the situation.
His comments came a day after Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda told parliament he would take "stern actions" against any "illegal actions" on Japanese territory.
"If illegal actions are made by neighboring countries in our territorial soil and waters, including Senkaku, we will take stern actions including using of Self-Defense Force troops, if necessary," Noda said Thursday.
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/3...sputed-islands
Good on Japan for sending a clear message. Would hate to see the situation escalate into violence however.
The gathering of storm.
Meanwhile, the Chinese side suggest actually not just diaoyu island, but Okinawa also belong to China, or at least not belong to japan.
I dont think the real intention for China is the island, if it were not for the island, China will pick other issues.
I think the real issue behind it is the WW2, I think China will only "forgive" japan when japan get revenaged by China in a traditional Chinese style such as slaughter all or at least a vast majority of their entire population etc.
And USA better keep their butt off in these issues, the goal of the coming generation in China is pretty detemined, they wouldnt mind rise a WW3 to achieve that goal.
With the rapid shift of power balance, the Americans will sure to lose that future WW3 if there were one, so it is rather stupid to cost America on a hopeless mission of trying to protect something you dont even want in the first place and even have dropped nukes on.
You guys can ban me for saying things like that, I could careless, in China its perfect OK to discuss this everyday and I have already enjoyed the concept of "freedom of speech" in a west style here before hehehe.
Last edited by goodguy; 07-27-2012 at 07:13 PM.
wat...Originally Posted by goodguy
The gathering of storm.
Meanwhile, the Chinese side suggest actually not just diaoyu island, but Okinawa also belong to China, or at least not belong to japan.
I dont think the real intention for China is the island, if it were not for the island, China will pick other issues.
I think the real issue behind it is the WW2, I think China will only "forgive" japan when japan get revenaged by China in a traditional Chinese style such as slaughter all or at least a vast majority of their entire population etc.
And USA better keep their butt off in these issues, the goal of the coming generation in China is pretty detemined, they wouldnt mind rise a WW3 to achieve that goal.
With the rapid shift of power balance, the Americans will sure to lose that future WW3 if there were one, so it is rather stupid to cost America on a hopeless mission of trying to protect something you dont even want in the first place and even have dropped nukes on.
You guys can ban me for saying things like that, I could careless, in China its perfect OK to discuss this everyday and I have already enjoyed the concept of "freedom of speech" in a west style here before hehehe.
What does the world recognize the islands as? Chinese or Japanese? I'm unfamiliar with these and I didn't see it in the article.
Seems like the majority of MP folks are on Japan's side
We need another thread ' Icefrog does not like China'.
Oh we're not going to ban you. Just, you know, call you out for being a dumbarse.
Why exactly should the US "keep their butt off in these issues"? It involves our allies and our interests in the area. In fact, we haven't needed to butt in and intervene; China's own ****ery is causing Korea, Japan, etc. to turn to strengthen ties with us and with each other. The PRC is doing a damn fine job shooting themselves in the foot by acting like the whole of Asia is now their playground and everyone needs to cowtow to them just because they can **** out cheap goods and higher rate than everyone else (which, by the way, is an advantage that is steadily slowing down).
And something tells me that, like most of your Chinese internet compatriots, you have zero military knowledge or experience outside of spouting off state propaganda or looking up weapon specs. Why are you so damn confident that China will come out the "victor" in WWIII. Putting aside the fact that any war between two superpowers will inevitably lead to a nuclear exchange from which there are no winners (assuming the world economy doesn't kill itself from the sheer shock that such a thing would happen), you are talking about a country that hasn't been in any sort of conflict in more than 30 years and, as mentioned already, are doing a great job of alienating themselves from the rest of East Asia? Lay off the jingoist chest beating and focus on the here and now, and there's a very big chance the board might actually take you seriously instead of writing you off as another Chicom 50-center.
Last edited by BloodyTalon; 07-27-2012 at 10:15 PM.
While it's not China's islands, the world has to appease to them some how. Just like it did with Hitler pre-WW2. So sooner or later nothing is going to happen and China is going to populate the islands, just as it did with Tibet.
China has disputes with Russia, Vietnam, Japan, South Korea, Brunei, Malaysia, Philippines, and even North Korea. Yes, that is right, North Korea. Don't know about Mongolia and India.
Of course it does.
Claims goes to part of Mongolia to the country has a whole, and they had pretty much the same relationship with India that they did with the soviets over the Amur (with armed raids, border conflict, etc...).
You can even add Pakistan to the list...
Nobody like China is a better title.
The Uncle Sam already did that for China in 1945 so you guys should forget about it and move on.
If the PRC wants to play this game to the end, they are in for a hell of a ride
Good on Japan for finally showing some backbone.
What makes you so confident that the PRC will win over everyone, goodguy?
Coz he's THE GoodGuy(TM)
We dont, and thats our way, it works fine for the past dozens of centuries so it should work fine in the future too
GoodGuy, I hate to burst your bubble, but The West wins WW3. Source: Revelations.
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