Reply With QuoteIn LD's defense why would he bring a knife with him in the first place??
It seems to me that your confusing Macs suspicion of what happened as a excuse of the kids actions when he is just questioning what happened.Originally Posted by LineDoggie
In LD's defense why would he bring a knife with him in the first place??
I wasn't lecturing you, so calm down. I asked a genuine question. My point is that we don't know the details so we can't judge. It might have been in self-defense for all we know. Either way, beheading an underaged boy is beyond heinous for me. Then again, I didn't grow up in a place where I had to be taught the ramifications of killing, so my viewpoint is lacking that perspective.
Probably a status symbol to show off. He also could have gotten hold of it during the fight. He definitely wasn't trained in CQC, but 13 year olds don't attack with the force and speed of adults, which could allow him to take the knife. The other kid might have simply dropped it in the heat of battle too, that sometimes happens.
So, I take it you are also a opponent of concealed carry ? Why carry a gun anyway, you want to shoot someone ?
And you oppose people who defend themselvs with deadly weapons ? Since there is never a reason to kill anyone.
Maybe... Just maybe, there is a bit more to the story and you shouldn't judge it on a 3 liner newsfeed.
Especially coming from a country like Saudi Arabia one should MAYBE take a bit more tought into this story than simply believing what they rule makes any sense.
Maybe in the end it was just cold blooded murder, but it being Saudi Arabia I wouldn't trust their "justice" system.
This time you made a mistake you always point in others, and with reason: you spoke to fast before more facts are known.
In honor to honesty, and in spite of that, I mostly agree with you: he killed another kid, and should be punished. Period.
But, for better or worse, many contries around there have a criminal justice system that tends to take care of criminals in a `rational´way, and based on some basic principles shared by the entire (civil) community. This "pay or your head is over" doesn´t seem to be one of them. And I´m quite sure the Saudi´s is not an example to follow.
If death penalty is the answer, use it. But all this `honor blood´looks more appropriate to ancient & twisted tribes.
Keep tolerating it, world; they have oil.
Let´s make it easy: because he´s the biggest teen criminal SOB in the middle east.
Point here to discuss, IMO, is this weird way they have to deal with it.
Yeah, what choice is there ?Keep tolerating it, world; they have oil.
They got alot more blood on their hands, like producing and harboring some of the worst terrorists this planet has seen.
The "Global" War on Terror also just passed them with mild consequences.
It's a open secret that they benefit from a special role they play.
Correct.
IMO, Keeping feeding them with money and tolerating / overlooking them is not the best thing to do.
But hey, they´re a close ally ...
To make myself clear, if the kid killed in anything other than self-defense, he should be punished, and harshly.
Too soft a system leads to what we have in Croatia: five kids, all under 16 and one or two under 13 have a rap sheet of nearly 700 crimes, ranging from theft to assault. None of them was or will be punished in forseeable future because the system protects them as minors. It was in the papers a few days ago.
I just don't think the best way to prevent the above example is chopping off underage kids heads. Unless they pay cash.
Mild consequences? That's overstating it a bit......Zero consequences
Because in a lot of ME countries and arabic peninsula, having a knife is a sign of manhood. The exterm example being Yemen when your are a full grown man if you carry a tulwar with rhino horn handle
Hey You've done some Brilliant thinking there- if you think you can equivocate a ADULT CCW carrier with a teenager carrying an illegal weapon and using it against someone else. You teach you kids to stab people in fights? your parents teach you to stab people in a fight? Somehow I doubt it.
Again no Sympathy for stabby ali muhammed
The analogy is fairly valid IMO, even if it isn't exactly the same thing obviously.
In any case we dont know the circumstances of the altercation maybe the kid was defending himself and killed someone in the process. Or maybe he was just another hot-headed prick carrying a knife and murdered someone.
We don't know.
Either way, he's guilty of at least manslaughter to put it in US terms and deserves to be punished.
That said, a beheading as punishment is just sick, almost as sick as the fact you can actually BUY your way out of it for a sum of money set by the family of the kid to cover their "losses" is.
You're certainly free to devise a better arrangement.
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